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Wow what a great accomplishment. Thanks for the photo. Quite a shop - the body on the lift in the background looks familiar. Alfa? Lancia?
Scrolling the pictures I shot yesterday, I bet there are many like this one, but, even if I try avoid clogging this post with photos, sometimes I don't resist...yes, it is a Lancia Fulvia Coupé, ready for final detail and painting process.
Agreed.
Paolo, you took so much car of her, this 993 will take care of you.
Paolo, you are some kind of Angel, sent down from above to save this car. You have earned great “car karma” for the rest of your life.
In the next couple weeks it is auxiliary frames + wheel carriers + monroe suspensions + steering column install + steering rack revision + brake booster time ( so that the car will be with a steering wheel installed and it will be possible to move her on her own wheels!)
Seeing her chassis moving on the wheels...I can't wait!
The gearbox internals are still missing.
After a couple email messages, I then tried getting from Guard Trasmission a quote, but I didn't get any answer yet (a couple months).
Some Porsche enthusiast and very inside the argument have warned me telling me openly that their gears are whiny, made for Motorsport applications, so that they reduce loss, but same time they are louder than stock...I thought the helix shape would prevent the gearbox from whining, but evidently it is not so.
By the way, engine rebuild is fixed for september, even considering some delay, the engine should be reassembled for the beginning of October.
Meanwhile I am going to install the lines (fuel, brake, wiring harnesses, control units, cockpit, seats and all the interiors), so basically, apart from the usual unavoidable inconveniences, the "big" missing part is the gearbox.
we will see what will happen, I hope finally the right opportunity will present itself.
Personally, I would like a gearbox with helical gears, but I am open to different solutions, namely:
- the gearbox can be its original G50 / 21 (of which I already have the LSD overhauled and ready to be installed)
- it can be a gearbox with gears tailored with the first longer and the sixth shorter, I am not interested in the bevel gear 8:32
- it can be the one of the RS or the CUP, but the market is crazy, because it seems the price of the gearbox follows the value of the car
- the whole case of the submerged car is in perfectly working conditions, as well as the synchros and dog teeth of each gear, and shift forks and levers: finding a Porsche dealer that could help me through this specific thing, it would be very nice, considering I have to buy many other smaller parts, including the alarm control unit with the 2 remotes.
We'll see, as for the rest of the project, I don't "sleep", but it is better staying calm and breath 10 times (at least) before taking a way...and most of times it is much more adviceable staying still.
So many scammers and thief around, and the matter by itself isn't cheap at all.
Last edited by nothingbutgt3; 07-06-2021 at 07:14 AM.
Scrolling the pictures I shot yesterday, I bet there are many like this one, but, even if I try avoid clogging this post with photos, sometimes I don't resist...yes, it is a Lancia Fulvia Coupé, ready for final detail and painting process.
In the next couple weeks it is auxiliary frames + wheel carriers + monroe suspensions + steering column install + steering rack revision + brake booster time ( so that the car will be with a steering wheel installed and it will be possible to move her on her own wheels!)
Seeing her chassis moving on the wheels...I can't wait!
The gearbox internals are still missing.
After a couple email messages, I then tried getting from Guard Trasmission a quote, but I didn't get any answer yet (a couple months).
Some Porsche enthusiast and very inside the argument have warned me telling me openly that their gears are whiny, made for Motorsport applications, so that they reduce loss, but same time they are louder than stock...I thought the helix shape would prevent the gearbox from whining, but evidently it is not so.
By the way, engine rebuild is fixed for september, even considering some delay, the engine should be reassembled for the beginning of October.
Meanwhile I am going to install the lines (fuel, brake, wiring harnesses, control units, cockpit, seats and all the interiors), so basically, apart from the usual unavoidable inconveniences, the "big" missing part is the gearbox.
we will see what will happen, I hope finally the right opportunity will present itself.
Personally, I would like a gearbox with helical gears, but I am open to different solutions, namely:
- the gearbox can be its original G50 / 21 (of which I already have the LSD overhauled and ready to be installed)
- it can be a gearbox with gears tailored with the first longer and the sixth shorter, I am not interested in the bevel gear 8:32
- it can be the one of the RS or the CUP, but the market is crazy, because it seems the price of the gearbox follows the value of the car
- the whole case of the submerged car is in perfectly working conditions, as well as the synchros and dog teeth of each gear, and shift forks and levers: finding a Porsche dealer that could help me through this specific thing, it would be very nice, considering I have to buy many other smaller parts, including the alarm control unit with the 2 remotes.
We'll see, as for the rest of the project, I don't "sleep", but it is better staying calm and breath 10 times (at least) before taking a way...and most of times it is much more adviceable staying still.
So many scammers and thief around, and the matter by itself isn't cheap at all.
What's the reasoning behind the Monroe suspension? BTW, if anyone from Porsche reads these threads..its not too late to sponsor this rebuild! @nothingbutgt3 needs a gearbox!
What's the reasoning behind the Monroe suspension? BTW, if anyone from Porsche reads these threads..its not too late to sponsor this rebuild! @nothingbutgt3 needs a gearbox!
I don't want to mess around while working on the car risking to damage the brand new MCS suspensions, they have the separate reservoir I want to fix to the body once and don't touch them anymore after installing, hence the Monroe I took off the silver 993 years ago.
I started checking the wiring harness I bought used couple of months ago from a German shop, and I found an inconsistency: comparing the 52 pole engine control unit connector with the engine control unit socket of both not varioram and varioram versions, the shape of the socket and connector guide coincides, while that one of the plug present in the electrical system I bought used is different, and therefore the plug cannot be inserted in the seat present on the varioram engine control unit that I would like to couple with the varioram intake i Was lucky finding used and complete for a very super good price.
The first thing that comes to my mind is that this electrical system should be intended for a different type of 993, a type that did not have a naturally aspirated engine and / or that had a tiptronic gearbox, that way, by introducing a different shape of the connector in this sense serves to avoid making mistakes.
on the right the not varioram Control unit coming from the submerged 993, on the left the used varioram control unit I would like to use
bottom the submerged socket, top the varioram socket, they both have the same tooth in the socket, placed in the middle of the teeth.
the groove of the socket I was checking this morning, part of the wiring harness I bought used is positioned on the edge
the groove of the socket I was checking this morning, coming from the wiring harness of the submerged 993 is positioned right in the middle of the plug teeth
I know it is probably a very annoying argument, but there must be a logic in here. the seller had two wiring harnesses for sale, I think he has mistaken one type with another one.
Last edited by nothingbutgt3; 07-23-2021 at 08:46 AM.
I started checking the wiring harness I bought used couple of months ago from a German shop, and I found an inconsistency: comparing the 52 pole engine control unit connector with the engine control unit socket of both not varioram and varioram versions, the shape of the socket and connector guide coincides, while that one of the plug present in the electrical system I bought used is different, and therefore the plug cannot be inserted in the seat present on the varioram engine control unit that I would like to couple with the varioram intake i Was lucky finding used and complete for a very super good price.
The first thing that comes to my mind is that this electrical system should be intended for a different type of 993, a type that did not have a naturally aspirated engine and / or that had a tiptronic gearbox, that way, by introducing a different shape of the connector in this sense serves to avoid making mistakes.
on the right the not varioram Control unit coming from the submerged 993, on the left the used varioram control unit I would like to use
bottom the submerged socket, top the varioram socket, they both have the same tooth in the socket, placed in the middle of the teeth.
the groove of the socket I was checking this morning, part of the wiring harness I bought used is positioned on the edge
the groove of the socket I was checking this morning, coming from the wiring harness of the submerged 993 is positioned right in the middle of the plug teeth
I know it is probably a very annoying argument, but there must be a logic in here. the seller had two wiring harnesses for sale, I think he has mistaken one type with another one.
Is there no sticker with a part number on the harness you were sold? My guess is it is from a Turbo car for the following reasons:
There are various harnesses listed in the PET for '94, '95, -'97, '98, and Turbo version
There is no different harness for Tiptronic cars
I checked my 98's DME and it has the same type of mating connection as you've pointed to with yellow arrow (cannot check my harness as car is not here but DME is)
I would suspect that the Turbo cars are significantly different to where they would make the harness incompatible with other 97/98 cars and therefore have a separate part number and make the connector incompatible so you cannot interchange them
Is there no sticker with a part number on the harness you were sold? My guess is it is from a Turbo car for the following reasons:
There are various harnesses listed in the PET for '94, '95, -'97, '98, and Turbo version
There is no different harness for Tiptronic cars
I checked my 98's DME and it has the same type of mating connection as you've pointed to with yellow arrow (cannot check my harness as car is not here but DME is)
I would suspect that the Turbo cars are significantly different to where they would make the harness incompatible with other 97/98 cars and therefore have a separate part number and make the connector incompatible so you cannot interchange them
uhm, nice contribute, thank you so much!
I will check on the plug the number but I think it will be a Bosch code of the pluc version.
I will also check the wiring harness for label of the Porsche part number.
07-05-2021, 04:15 PM
