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Old 01-14-2024, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Sure, notice the lack of venting down low on the bumper on the 991.1 cars:



991.2 vents on bottom left (both sides) represent intercooler exit air path:



992.1 same thing:



Notice those vents missing on the new spy shots here:

Thank you! That's super helpful. I was expecting something in the front, but thinking about it after your post, front will only be intake.
Old 01-14-2024, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Makes me wonder if we are looking at the naturally aspirated version (if that’s a real thing).

No intercooler exit air vents down low on the bumper. Very much a 991.1 look.
@Schn3ll ,

Thanks for sharing the pictures; they are really informative and help visualize possible motivations behind design decisions.

As you suggest, this spy shot could very well be the rumored naturally aspirated version.

However, if the Porsche needed to incorporate intercooler exits, do you think could they could squeeze them in just below the license plate area, to the left and right of the exhaust tips?…





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Old 01-14-2024, 09:45 AM
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Definitely a possibility, but there doesn’t look like enough depth there to have a significant opening.

Additionally, you wouldn’t want warm exhaust gas sneaking up into there when stationary (potentially heat soaking the intercoolers. Albeit that would be minimal.
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Old 01-14-2024, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Definitely a possibility, but there doesn’t look like enough depth there to have a significant opening.

Additionally, you wouldn’t want warm exhaust gas sneaking up into there when stationary (potentially heat soaking the intercoolers. Albeit that would be minimal.

If you look at this shot it looks like there those nooks next to the exhaust tips could be the vent...looks like there is something under there.


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Old 01-14-2024, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Definitely a possibility, but there doesn’t look like enough depth there to have a significant opening.

Additionally, you wouldn’t want warm exhaust gas sneaking up into there when stationary (potentially heat soaking the intercoolers. Albeit that would be minimal.
Those two potential vents together appear larger than the center intercooler exhaust vent between the exhaust outlets on the current 992.1 sport design rear bumper. I would not be concerned at all about heat soak because of the velocity of exhaust and air exiting those ports. The intercooler air is already hot after it moves through (below) the heat exchanger. The intercooler exit vent on the current 992.1 sport design bumper runs right next to the Porsche OEM muffler.



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Old 01-14-2024, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Sure, notice the lack of venting down low on the bumper on the 991.1 cars:



991.2 vents on bottom left (both sides) represent intercooler exit air path:



992.1 same thing:



Notice those vents missing on the new spy shots here:



Here's a better illustration of the turbo air path:


Naturally aspirated cars just use the upper engine cover for intake, no pass through cooling required like on the intercooled cars.
This is a photo of the 992.1 standard bumper. The intercooler air routing for the 992.1 sport design bumper is different with an additional large exhaust vent between the exhaust tips. This is discussed at the do88 website.
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Definitely a possibility, but there doesn’t look like enough depth there to have a significant opening.

Additionally, you wouldn’t want warm exhaust gas sneaking up into there when stationary (potentially heat soaking the intercoolers. Albeit that would be minimal.
the lower vents are exhaust air from inter coolers. The intake for the intercoolers are the slats below the rear window.
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Old 01-14-2024, 12:49 PM
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Think there will be a water to air intercooler. Way more compact and easily to facilitate in the current space.
More efficient and heat gets out through front radiators. So called low temperature circuit.
Charge cooling is more stable that way.
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Originally Posted by Tour the Ring
Think there will be a water to air intercooler. Way more compact and easily to facilitate in the current space.
More efficient and heat gets out through front radiators. So called low temperature circuit.
Charge cooling is more stable that way.
No.
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I don’t like the way they have the exhaust. Not a fan of the 2 separate diffusers. I like a center exhaust, but this doesn’t come off that way. It just looks like dual exhaust positioned close to each other. Plus it looks like they snapped in 2 LEGO pieces for exhaust tips. I would’ve rather a single full width rear diffuser with a true center exhaust like a 991.2 or 992 gt3



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Originally Posted by Fullyield
No.
Let's see, I say also e-supported single turbo.
Old 01-15-2024, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Makes me wonder if we are looking at the naturally aspirated version (if that’s a real thing).

No intercooler exit air vents down low on the bumper. Very much a 991.1 look.
I think it will be an NA with a hybrid drive. There's no way a standalone 3.6L NA engine will be near the power output for the current turbo configuration.

If Porsche is to exceed the power output of current gen it'll have to either keep the turbos or add a hybrid system (or both). If I'm understanding how these systems work, the hybrid power boost will on by available when the battery is charged and ready to go.. meanwhile a turbo engine will have all the power all the time. Although I'm not familiar with how efficient regeneration works. All that said, knowing Porsche, it should be faster that previous gen on the Nordschleife... no way will it be slower.

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Originally Posted by Ikone
I guess that's one way to make sure everyone upgrades to the sport design package.
Or stick with the .1
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Old 01-15-2024, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Purekoryo
Or stick with the .1
Or both. I have a 992.1 GTS. Feel lucked out with the front.
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Originally Posted by Ikone
Or both. I have a 992.1 GTS. Feel lucked out with the front.
I also have the same front and feel that it’s a clean timeless look.
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