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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 12:50 AM
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it's really easy to guess that for weight and cooling complexity, any plugin hybrid will get a non turbo engine

Good for saving money, weight and the Nostalgia reputation
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nein Eleven
This was already done on the 991.
the 991 does not have the same pdk as the 992. the 992 generation has a redesigned 8 speed that is indeed designed to handle way more torque.
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
I saw it earlier today and thought, okay, this video just regurgitates everything C&D said.
Except he failed to mention the GTS will be hybrid. 413 lb⋅ft of torque is impossible out of a 3.6 NA without hybrid assist.
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 11:28 AM
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Except he failed to mention the GTS will be hybrid. 413 lb⋅ft of torque is impossible out of a 3.6 NA without hybrid assist.
This is true. Interesting to see in the real world how much weight the hybrid adds and if you can get with a man pedal.....
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tmslc
the 991 does not have the same pdk as the 992. the 992 generation has a redesigned 8 speed that is indeed designed to handle way more torque.
You’re right. I should have said it was redesigned FOR the 991 as was the whole platform, which is why it grew so much compared to the 997.
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 01:23 AM
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You’re right. I should have said it was redesigned FOR the 991 as was the whole platform, which is why it grew so much compared to the 997.
991 is lighter than 997
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Originally Posted by fxz
991 is lighter than 997
Only in PDK guise.

The MT 991 is still heavier than the 997 MT (3142 v. 3131, respectively)
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 02:43 AM
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991 is lighter than 997
External dimensions.
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This is true. Interesting to see in the real world how much weight the hybrid adds and if you can get with a man pedal.....
As stated above, if the hybrid motor boosts the PDK then “No”. If the hybrid motor boosts a front transaxle then “Maybe”.
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As stated above, if the hybrid motor boosts the PDK then “No”. If the hybrid motor boosts a front transaxle then “Maybe”.


A system that mounts the electric motor upstream of the Transmission and differentials will allow for a real manual transmission because the combined output of the system will be output into the manual transmission which the driver can control. This is how the system is laid out in the Ford vehicles that have manual transmissions and hybrid.

A manual transmission in a vehicle with an electric motor independently powering the front wheels is basically a shift **** placed there to appease people because the driver is no longer controlling all of the power output the the wheels.
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Originally Posted by malba2366
A system that mounts the electric motor upstream of the Transmission and differentials will allow for a real manual transmission because the combined output of the system will be output into the manual transmission which the driver can control. This is how the system is laid out in the Ford vehicles that have manual transmissions and hybrid.

A manual transmission in a vehicle with an electric motor independently powering the front wheels is basically a shift **** placed there to appease people because the driver is no longer controlling all of the power output the the wheels.
Heretic here with the counterargument: programming an electric motor to tweak its output based on the clutch pedal position – or ideally something more accurate, like sensors that can detect how much ICE output is transmitted through the transmission depending on clutch engagement – should be quite easy. How much do people hate the Koenigsegg clutch-by-wire system in the CC850? Clutching an e-motor by wire with programming to mimic the feeling of power going through a clutch pack seems pretty plausible, just not very pure.
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H How much do people hate the Koenigsegg clutch-by-wire system in the CC850?
PDK is a great transmission too...
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10 pot front callipers, essentially the Turbo S brakes on the GTS :


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