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The question always remains - what keeps "you" from buying the 992.1? Waiting for better times or a better 911? Changes will come and Porsche will do well on them too. But "you" could also miss something from the 992.1 in the 992.2 - for example the turbo without mild hybrid or the analogue rev counter.
The question always remains - what keeps "you" from buying the 992.1? Waiting for better times or a better 911? Changes will come and Porsche will do well on them too. But "you" could also miss something from the 992.1 in the 992.2 - for example the turbo without mild hybrid or the analogue rev counter.
This month’s Panorama has a short discussion about Porsche production plans for 2023-2026. Glad I bought a 2022 992S.
In 2023, 911 GTS RS gets a redesign, with 518hp 4.0 liter six.
Later in 2023, Cayenne, Taycan, and 911 “all get refreshed” No details regarding 911.
In 2024, should see hybrid 911, electric Macan, and might be electric Cayenne.
2026, new three-row cross-over electric SUV, K1”.
The question always remains - what keeps "you" from buying the 992.1? Waiting for better times or a better 911? Changes will come and Porsche will do well on them too. But "you" could also miss something from the 992.1 in the 992.2 - for example the turbo without mild hybrid or the analogue rev counter.
In 2023, 911 GTS RS gets a redesign, with 518hp 4.0 liter six.
Later in 2023, Cayenne, Taycan, and 911 “all get refreshed” No details regarding 911.
In 2024, should see hybrid 911, electric Macan, and might be electric Cayenne.
2026, new three-row cross-over electric SUV, K1”.
My guess is 2028 for the 911's. Manufacturers have to meet product line/fleet particulate emissions that get progressively tighter from 2025 through 2028. I would imagine that a manufacturer would save putting GPF's on their performance models until as late in the game as possible.
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Last edited by Bluehighways; 12-19-2022 at 10:43 AM.
In 2023, 911 GTS RS gets a redesign, with 518hp 4.0 liter six.
Later in 2023, Cayenne, Taycan, and 911 “all get refreshed” No details regarding 911.
In 2024, should see hybrid 911, electric Macan, and might be electric Cayenne.
2026, new three-row cross-over electric SUV, K1”.
From “Street Talk”, Bob Rassa & Doug Lloyd
The way that's worded, it seems there will be a single 911 Hybrid model versus the hybridization of the entire Carrera line-up. Nonetheless, I'm banking on the entire Carrera line-up getting some sort of mild hybrid set-up and maybe the Turbo S will get something akin to the 296 GTB.
The way that's worded, it seems there will be a single 911 Hybrid model versus the hybridization of the entire Carrera line-up. Nonetheless, I'm banking on the entire Carrera line-up getting some sort of mild hybrid set-up and maybe the Turbo S will get something akin to the 296 GTB.
Do you think the 911 going hybrid is a good thing or bad thing? Although it happened sooner than I planned, the whole reason I jumped on the June allocation for my 2023 C4 GTS is because I'm really happy with the way it is currently built and don't want anything to do with an electric car of any sort. Just my personal preference. Also, last year I bought a 2022 Panamera Turbo S and it's actually faster than the Turbo S eHybrid Panamera even though the latter has more power. It's the battery weight that hinders it a bit. I don't know...for me, these cars cost too much money to make a mistake with and buy the wrong one. Originally I wanted a 911 Turbo S, but after driving my Panamera and seeing/feeling how fast it is, I decided the 911 Turbo S was simply too much for the street in my case, and when could I ever really take advantage of its power without going to jail? (I don't track my cars). So the thought of a hybridized 992.2 911 Turbo S with even more power like the 296 GTB is mind-blowing to me. Put wings on that thing and might take off. LOL.
If they can keep the weight down, a hybrid is fine. No plug in. Regen brakes on the front only because the rear end already carries too much weight. It they want to make it a separate model - eliminate the rear seats in that variant.
If they go hybrid on all Carreras it would be a deal breaker for me and Im on a list for the S. Even though there are performance benefits on a hybrid I look at em as a stop gap or bandaid before being full EV. Whose gonna fix a hybrid motor after the initial warranty ends.....how about in 8-10 years.? How much? 911s are highly sought after even when it's 10 years old. I may have to buy a used 2023 or keep my C2 and mod it..who knows.
The way that's worded, it seems there will be a single 911 Hybrid model versus the hybridization of the entire Carrera line-up. Nonetheless, I'm banking on the entire Carrera line-up getting some sort of mild hybrid set-up and maybe the Turbo S will get something akin to the 296 GTB.
Be aware I summarized the info, not direct quotes. But I think it gets the gist pretty accurately.
If they go hybrid on all Carreras it would be a deal breaker for me and Im on a list for the S. Even though there are performance benefits on a hybrid I look at em as a stop gap or bandaid before being full EV. Whose gonna fix a hybrid motor after the initial warranty ends.....how about in 8-10 years.? How much? 911s are highly sought after even when it's 10 years old. I may have to buy a used 2023 or keep my C2 and mod it..who knows.
Hybrid powertrains are commonplace now. They're not terribly different from a regular ICE car in terms of maintenance; the electric portion needs little to nothing, the ICE portion, is, well, ICE, so needs the standard maintenance we're all familiar with. The only thing different/unusual is whatever coupling mechanism that may exist between the two motors; some drive separate axles, some combine the power through clutches and diffs, etc. None of this stuff is terribly complex and is pretty well sorted. The notion that the hybrid power train will be difficult to work on is not something it's worth getting too hung up on.
12-18-2022, 05:34 PM
Give me a modern 930 doctor killer
