992.2 April 2024 Release
11-12-2023, 03:23 PM
#931
Rennlist Member
I’ve seen it quoted closer to 200lbs, but it’s also a 7.4 kWh full hybrid battery. The ‘mild hybrid’ 48v battery in my MB is 0.9 kWh…not much bigger than a big 12v car battery.
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11-12-2023, 03:28 PM
#932
Rennlist Member
What they should do is cut down on the EV only range - I believe the Ferrari 296 does 15 miles EV only. Who needs that on a sports car? Nobody. Best case you want enough EV only power to get out of your neighborhood quietly to the first main road - 5 miles EV range would be more than enough on a car like the 911, which would allow a smaller/lighter battery pack. These are the kind of design choices they need to make to keep the weight under control.
11-12-2023, 04:36 PM
#933
Wrote this 7 months ago 
3.6l hybrid engine on s/gts models, 3.0 non hybrid stays with base one. s/4s 510hp, gts 540hp.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1318...l#post18759356
3.6l hybrid engine on s/gts models, 3.0 non hybrid stays with base one. s/4s 510hp, gts 540hp.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1318...l#post18759356
11-12-2023, 04:37 PM
#934
Racer
Wrote this 7 months ago
3.6l hybrid engine on s/gts models, 3.0 non hybrid stays with base one. s/4s 510hp, gts 540hp.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1318...l#post18759356
3.6l hybrid engine on s/gts models, 3.0 non hybrid stays with base one. s/4s 510hp, gts 540hp.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1318...l#post18759356
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Jeahbladejeah (11-13-2023)
11-12-2023, 05:43 PM
#935
Rennlist Member
Given all the speculation that the 992.2 will be a Hybrid Power Train for the "S" & "GTS" models, is there any possibility that Porsche offers both variations (Non-Hybrid & Hybrid), for the "S" and "GTS" models as different trim levels? My dealer was kicking around that option, yet said the has only "hearsay" around the Porsche watercooler.....
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11-12-2023, 06:12 PM
#936
I have an Expected date: 4/8/24 GTS on order. No mention of anything other than a standard engine. April would be an odd time to changeover.
Interestingly (maybe only to me) I now have an early production 992.1S and an expected last production 992.1 GTS. I wonder how different they will be?
Interestingly (maybe only to me) I now have an early production 992.1S and an expected last production 992.1 GTS. I wonder how different they will be?
11-12-2023, 10:14 PM
#937
11-12-2023, 10:36 PM
#938
Instructor
11-13-2023, 01:04 AM
#939
I have an Expected date: 4/8/24 GTS on order. No mention of anything other than a standard engine. April would be an odd time to changeover.
Interestingly (maybe only to me) I now have an early production 992.1S and an expected last production 992.1 GTS. I wonder how different they will be?
Interestingly (maybe only to me) I now have an early production 992.1S and an expected last production 992.1 GTS. I wonder how different they will be?
The dealers have allocations now for April builds on last of the 992.1 cars.
11-13-2023, 01:09 AM
#940
Given all the speculation that the 992.2 will be a Hybrid Power Train for the "S" & "GTS" models, is there any possibility that Porsche offers both variations (Non-Hybrid & Hybrid), for the "S" and "GTS" models as different trim levels? My dealer was kicking around that option, yet said the has only "hearsay" around the Porsche watercooler.....
Again all this is pretty baffling considering MB just released a new SL and AMG GT with V8 and no hybrid crap.
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blipit (11-13-2023)
11-13-2023, 02:23 AM
#941
Intermediate
Adding a mild hybrid will not reduce complexity. The battery itself is 200-300lbs plus ECU mapping, wiring etc. Working on these things in the future will be more expensive as well.
For a street car that is a weekend fun car or daily, the current S and GTS variants are already too fast. Not really sure what type of smoothness you are seeking but i don’t want my 911 to feel like Mercedes SL.
For a street car that is a weekend fun car or daily, the current S and GTS variants are already too fast. Not really sure what type of smoothness you are seeking but i don’t want my 911 to feel like Mercedes SL.
As others have said, if it is a mild hybrid system they are adding, I doubt they will even say anything about it (like BMW and most others do). Most everyone won't even know it is there.
From the rumors and what high level Porsche execs have said it sounds like this will be a 'Performance Full Hybrid', which I would expect would add somewhere in the range of 150lbs to 300lbs to the car. As others have said there can be some weight savings and certainly the potential to improve the overall weight distribution in the car. The E-Ray for example is 260lbs heavier than the Z06 (uses the same wide-body). If I had to guess, I would bet Porsche's full hybrid system would add less than 200lbs to the car.
11-13-2023, 03:41 AM
#942
11-13-2023, 10:40 AM
#943
Burning Brakes
Mild Hybrid systems typically add 50lbs-100lbs to the weight, nothing like 200lbs+. The mild hybrid system in the Silverado is under 100lbs and being a full size truck I don't think that was designed to be super lightweight.
As others have said, if it is a mild hybrid system they are adding, I doubt they will even say anything about it (like BMW and most others do). Most everyone won't even know it is there.
From the rumors and what high level Porsche execs have said it sounds like this will be a 'Performance Full Hybrid', which I would expect would add somewhere in the range of 150lbs to 300lbs to the car. As others have said there can be some weight savings and certainly the potential to improve the overall weight distribution in the car. The E-Ray for example is 260lbs heavier than the Z06 (uses the same wide-body). If I had to guess, I would bet Porsche's full hybrid system would add less than 200lbs to the car.
As others have said, if it is a mild hybrid system they are adding, I doubt they will even say anything about it (like BMW and most others do). Most everyone won't even know it is there.
From the rumors and what high level Porsche execs have said it sounds like this will be a 'Performance Full Hybrid', which I would expect would add somewhere in the range of 150lbs to 300lbs to the car. As others have said there can be some weight savings and certainly the potential to improve the overall weight distribution in the car. The E-Ray for example is 260lbs heavier than the Z06 (uses the same wide-body). If I had to guess, I would bet Porsche's full hybrid system would add less than 200lbs to the car.
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nyca (11-13-2023)
11-13-2023, 11:41 AM
#944
RL Community Team
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Don't worry, whatever EV system is in the 992.2 generation - be it hybrid, mild hybrid, e-assist, etc. - people will buy it.
History says as much.
993 to 996 (air to water cooled), 991.1 to 991.2 (NA to FI) and 992.1 to 992.2 (ICE to ?).
Relax, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
History says as much.
993 to 996 (air to water cooled), 991.1 to 991.2 (NA to FI) and 992.1 to 992.2 (ICE to ?).
Relax, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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