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#5416
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Tramlining is mostly a GT350 issue. I know other cars get it, but none like the GT350. Porsche is totally different suspension. That's the one thing I do NOT miss about my GT350. Otherwise, I miss the car a lot
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toph4242 (02-12-2023)
#5417
Yea I will agree with this one... The 911 + Cup 2 tires had its issues when cold (The tires just felt like a puck on ice)... But as long as you took a few miles to really warm them up, as soon as they become sticky there is NOTHING better on the market. Just dont drive in cold weather, recipe for disaster... Some people say you cant drive in the rain, but I think if you are in wet mode and not pushing then car they are fine.
#5418
Burning Brakes
Had both a base engine 992 911 Targa and a 992 S 911 and I preferred the base engine. The S with those larger turbo blades takes a big breath before the blades spool up while the turbo lag in the Base Targa 4 is almost non-existent. And surprisingly the base engine seems to hum down the freeway just as fast as the S at 70 mph. My personal experience is the base engine is absolutely enough power for anyone that is not doing competitive or timed track competition. But on the street the base engine is more than enough.
porsche sticks on larger turbo blades for likely around $100 cost and charges the customer $18,000. Save the $18,000 and buy their stock with the money!
porsche sticks on larger turbo blades for likely around $100 cost and charges the customer $18,000. Save the $18,000 and buy their stock with the money!
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tourenwagen (02-13-2023)
#5419
3rd Gear
Hey toph4242 just curious if you are looking to replace the 20/21" setup with 19s for just track days or permanently? I am brand new to Porsche and have my T scheduled for delivery in late April. I would also prefer 19s all around but I certainly don't want to take anything away from the handling and balance of the car, figuring the engineers know best! I also had to sell a 2016 Shelby GT350 that had 19/35s and loved them. My girlfriend has a 2017 AMG C63S with the 20/35 and 21/30s and it just doesn't drive as nice as my GT350 did. I do miss that car!
#5420
Had both a base engine 992 911 Targa and a 992 S 911 and I preferred the base engine. The S with those larger turbo blades takes a big breath before the blades spool up while the turbo lag in the Base Targa 4 is almost non-existent. And surprisingly the base engine seems to hum down the freeway just as fast as the S at 70 mph. My personal experience is the base engine is absolutely enough power for anyone that is not doing competitive or timed track competition. But on the street the base engine is more than enough.
porsche sticks on larger turbo blades for likely around $100 cost and charges the customer $18,000. Save the $18,000 and buy their stock with the money!
porsche sticks on larger turbo blades for likely around $100 cost and charges the customer $18,000. Save the $18,000 and buy their stock with the money!
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HerrDr (02-12-2023)
#5421
+1 for Michelin. I had Pilot Super Sports (precursor to the PS4S) on my 987.1 and 996.1 C4. Such an awesome tire. Night and day magic from the previous tires (can't recall what they were anymore and don't care!). Will 100% be getting the latest Pilot Sports on offer as quickly as I can wear down whatever comes on the T.
Will also be rocking a set of 19" wheels + winter tires for the T. Heck. I'd do 18" for winter if I can make it work!
Will also be rocking a set of 19" wheels + winter tires for the T. Heck. I'd do 18" for winter if I can make it work!
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#5422
Hey toph4242 just curious if you are looking to replace the 20/21" setup with 19s for just track days or permanently? I am brand new to Porsche and have my T scheduled for delivery in late April. I would also prefer 19s all around but I certainly don't want to take anything away from the handling and balance of the car, figuring the engineers know best! I also had to sell a 2016 Shelby GT350 that had 19/35s and loved them. My girlfriend has a 2017 AMG C63S with the 20/35 and 21/30s and it just doesn't drive as nice as my GT350 did. I do miss that car!
As far as going smaller on the rims... This would ONLY be for track days. I love the look of the larger rims for 95% of the driving I will be doing. I recently started looking into a trailer setup with my Cayenne so I can bring the 911 to and from track days, but I havent sorted this all out yet, so for now I will keep a set of track rims/tires at my local shop and they will just swap them on day of events.
I think I am leaning towards doing a 19in square setup on the car and making up for the difference on Larger rear tires... Probably still aim for 305-315 in the rear and 245 setup up front. The 19 setup will allow for cheaper Cup 2s and I wont have to deal with sourcing different sizes front to back... Spacers should account for any issues on stance...
As I mentioned, this wont be till next year, Im going to drive the car as is on the 20/21 setup (especially if I get stuck with the goodyears)... Ill aim to just burn through them as quickly as possible this coming season on a couple track days.
#5423
3rd Gear
Yeah I'm curious as to what 19/20 or square 19 setup you can get to match the overall diameter of the 20/21 set up. I'd prefer the 19s with a little more sidewall with a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3's. I have those on my 2003 Honda S2000 and love them. It would be cool to see a modern 19" version of the Fuchs wheels from the mid-80s!
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toph4242 (02-12-2023)
#5424
Locking soon, thoughts on the build below?
Am I missing something important? I fear I won't have sports exhaust or chrono package but both are standard.
Should I keep PDLS+?
1 992150 911 Carrera T 116,600.00
2 1A Gentian Blue Metallic 840.00
3 WA Standard Interior with Checkered Sport-Tex Seat Centers 0.00
4 0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.) 230.00
5 1PD Locking Wheel Bolts 60.00
6 2PJ Heated GT Sport Steering Wheel in Leather 280.00
7 2V4 Ionizer 350.00
8 3FE Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof in Glass 2,000.00
9 3S4 Preparation for Roof Transport System 60.00
10 46J 20"/21"RS Spyder Design Wheels in Titanium Grey 2,540.00
11 6F0 Deletion of "911 Carrera T" Side Decal 0.00
12 6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors 370.00
13 8IS Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) 1,270.00
14 8VH Exclusive Design Taillights 990.00
15 FZ4 Seat Belts in Racing Yellow 540.00
16 G1F 8-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 0.00
17 QJ4 Window Trim in High Gloss Black 510.00
18 QK3 Preparation for Porsche Dashcam (Front and Rear) 130.00
19 QQ2 Ambient Lighting 580.00
20 S38 Rear Seats 0.00
21 Z1S Included First Year / 10,000 Mile Maintenance 0.00
Am I missing something important? I fear I won't have sports exhaust or chrono package but both are standard.
Should I keep PDLS+?
1 992150 911 Carrera T 116,600.00
2 1A Gentian Blue Metallic 840.00
3 WA Standard Interior with Checkered Sport-Tex Seat Centers 0.00
4 0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.) 230.00
5 1PD Locking Wheel Bolts 60.00
6 2PJ Heated GT Sport Steering Wheel in Leather 280.00
7 2V4 Ionizer 350.00
8 3FE Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof in Glass 2,000.00
9 3S4 Preparation for Roof Transport System 60.00
10 46J 20"/21"RS Spyder Design Wheels in Titanium Grey 2,540.00
11 6F0 Deletion of "911 Carrera T" Side Decal 0.00
12 6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors 370.00
13 8IS Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) 1,270.00
14 8VH Exclusive Design Taillights 990.00
15 FZ4 Seat Belts in Racing Yellow 540.00
16 G1F 8-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 0.00
17 QJ4 Window Trim in High Gloss Black 510.00
18 QK3 Preparation for Porsche Dashcam (Front and Rear) 130.00
19 QQ2 Ambient Lighting 580.00
20 S38 Rear Seats 0.00
21 Z1S Included First Year / 10,000 Mile Maintenance 0.00
Last edited by itrocks4u; 02-12-2023 at 04:51 PM.
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rokkerkory (02-12-2023)
#5425
Locking soon, thoughts on the build below?
Am I missing something important? I fear I won't have sports exhaust or chrono package but both are standard.
Should I keep PDLS+?
1 992150 911 Carrera T 116,600.00
2 1A Gentian Blue Metallic 840.00
3 WA Standard Interior with Checkered Sport-Tex Seat Centers 0.00
4 0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.) 230.00
5 1PD Locking Wheel Bolts 60.00
6 2PJ Heated GT Sport Steering Wheel in Leather 280.00
7 2V4 Ionizer 350.00
8 3FE Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof in Glass 2,000.00
9 3S4 Preparation for Roof Transport System 60.00
10 46J 20"/21"RS Spyder Design Wheels in Titanium Grey 2,540.00
11 6F0 Deletion of "911 Carrera T" Side Decal 0.00
12 6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors 370.00
13 8IS Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) 1,270.00
14 8VH Exclusive Design Taillights 990.00
15 FZ4 Seat Belts in Racing Yellow 540.00
16 G1F 8-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 0.00
17 QJ4 Window Trim in High Gloss Black 510.00
18 QK3 Preparation for Porsche Dashcam (Front and Rear) 130.00
19 QQ2 Ambient Lighting 580.00
20 S38 Rear Seats 0.00
21 Z1S Included First Year / 10,000 Mile Maintenance 0.00
Am I missing something important? I fear I won't have sports exhaust or chrono package but both are standard.
Should I keep PDLS+?
1 992150 911 Carrera T 116,600.00
2 1A Gentian Blue Metallic 840.00
3 WA Standard Interior with Checkered Sport-Tex Seat Centers 0.00
4 0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.) 230.00
5 1PD Locking Wheel Bolts 60.00
6 2PJ Heated GT Sport Steering Wheel in Leather 280.00
7 2V4 Ionizer 350.00
8 3FE Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof in Glass 2,000.00
9 3S4 Preparation for Roof Transport System 60.00
10 46J 20"/21"RS Spyder Design Wheels in Titanium Grey 2,540.00
11 6F0 Deletion of "911 Carrera T" Side Decal 0.00
12 6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors 370.00
13 8IS Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+) 1,270.00
14 8VH Exclusive Design Taillights 990.00
15 FZ4 Seat Belts in Racing Yellow 540.00
16 G1F 8-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 0.00
17 QJ4 Window Trim in High Gloss Black 510.00
18 QK3 Preparation for Porsche Dashcam (Front and Rear) 130.00
19 QQ2 Ambient Lighting 580.00
20 S38 Rear Seats 0.00
21 Z1S Included First Year / 10,000 Mile Maintenance 0.00
-Add the storage package - its a $0 option and gives you a nice netting in the footwell and an extra one in the trunk (I didnt know this until recently)
-SKIP PDLS+ (In my opinion) I have owned a 911 with and without PDLS+ and I really could not notice a difference in brightness at all... 992s all have LED lights now as standard. The swivel isnt really all that useful to me, and the auto high beam I actually found to be annoying because it doesnt come on in a lot of situations when you are driving on a road with parked cars (it always thought the reflection was oncoming cars)... I think save the money there.
-I see you have gone the route of rear seats + PDK... I know not everyone likes a manual, but why the rear seats? Do you have kids? its gonna sound better in there without them haha
-Love the yellow belts with Gentian... My last car was gentian and the one thing I wish I had on it was yellow belts (why I got them this time around)
-I think Gentian + Exclusive tailights will look great.. I had the regular ones on my gentian and never thought they looked out of place if you want to save money here as well, you could put the PDLS+ and Exclusive light money towards RWS or another option that you are lusting after.
Congrats... some things are different from how I would go, but thats the beauty of this... spec it for you.
#5426
Yeah I'm curious as to what 19/20 or square 19 setup you can get to match the overall diameter of the 20/21 set up. I'd prefer the 19s with a little more sidewall with a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3's. I have those on my 2003 Honda S2000 and love them. It would be cool to see a modern 19" version of the Fuchs wheels from the mid-80s!
https://www.fuchsfelgeusa.com/wheels/
#5427
At least it goes away with other tires. I’ve run two other kinds of Michelins on my 2019 and there is no tramlining.
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catdog2 (02-12-2023)
#5428
Thoughts...Nothing to worry about as far as chrono or sport exhaust, as they are both for sure standard!
-Add the storage package - its a $0 option and gives you a nice netting in the footwell and an extra one in the trunk (I didnt know this until recently)
-SKIP PDLS+ (In my opinion) I have owned a 911 with and without PDLS+ and I really could not notice a difference in brightness at all... 992s all have LED lights now as standard. The swivel isnt really all that useful to me, and the auto high beam I actually found to be annoying because it doesnt come on in a lot of situations when you are driving on a road with parked cars (it always thought the reflection was oncoming cars)... I think save the money there.
-I see you have gone the route of rear seats + PDK... I know not everyone likes a manual, but why the rear seats? Do you have kids? its gonna sound better in there without them haha
-Love the yellow belts with Gentian... My last car was gentian and the one thing I wish I had on it was yellow belts (why I got them this time around)
-I think Gentian + Exclusive tailights will look great.. I had the regular ones on my gentian and never thought they looked out of place if you want to save money here as well, you could put the PDLS+ and Exclusive light money towards RWS or another option that you are lusting after.
Congrats... some things are different from how I would go, but thats the beauty of this... spec it for you.
-Add the storage package - its a $0 option and gives you a nice netting in the footwell and an extra one in the trunk (I didnt know this until recently)
-SKIP PDLS+ (In my opinion) I have owned a 911 with and without PDLS+ and I really could not notice a difference in brightness at all... 992s all have LED lights now as standard. The swivel isnt really all that useful to me, and the auto high beam I actually found to be annoying because it doesnt come on in a lot of situations when you are driving on a road with parked cars (it always thought the reflection was oncoming cars)... I think save the money there.
-I see you have gone the route of rear seats + PDK... I know not everyone likes a manual, but why the rear seats? Do you have kids? its gonna sound better in there without them haha
-Love the yellow belts with Gentian... My last car was gentian and the one thing I wish I had on it was yellow belts (why I got them this time around)
-I think Gentian + Exclusive tailights will look great.. I had the regular ones on my gentian and never thought they looked out of place if you want to save money here as well, you could put the PDLS+ and Exclusive light money towards RWS or another option that you are lusting after.
Congrats... some things are different from how I would go, but thats the beauty of this... spec it for you.
You referenced RWS, what is that?
What would you spec differently (outside of color). Would love to know.
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toph4242 (02-13-2023)
#5429
#5430
RWS is Rear-Wheel Steering. You'll also see it referred to as RAS for Rear-Axle Steering. It seems a bit controversial. It's a performance option available on the T not available on the base Carrera. Some swear by it, others claim it is not needed, and others still may say it feels unnatural. Lots of discussion among these thousands of posts if you feel like digging.