Originally Posted by itrocks4u

Locking wheels at $60 didnt seem like a bad idea. I live in suburbs so feel like someone will steal my wheels lol. Porsche are not common here.

Originally Posted by toph4242

I think Porsche made a pretty big effort to try and point out the reduced insulation as a way to make this car "louder" inside... here is the press release that points out reduced insulation: And watch this video of the Porsche Engineer talk about the insulation reduction as a way to enhance the acoustics in the car (58 second mark)... its in German but there are subtitles. all part of the official press release though...

Originally Posted by 6sigma

Do we know what spec is used to measure weight? Is it a zero option T?

Is the lightest possible weight T a car with only buckets, carbon roof, and titanium wheel bolts? We don't really know what that car would weight though?

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

My guess is that Porsche did not bother redoing the weight certification for the -T and simply certified it as a variant of the base 992 for the official weight spec. I however found the below weight waterfall chart to be interesting. If you consider the 7MT-PDK difference at 77lb, it means the other +/- translate to ~23lb. Assuming 28lb for the battery, 9lb for the lightweight glass and ~40lb for the rear seat (and seatbelt) delete, there is ~54lb of added weight from the larger wheels, LSD, S-PASM and PSE.

Originally Posted by bobert75

In the past, I've wondered (for fun) exactly what accounts for the 44 lb difference between a Carrera S w/MT and a Carrera T w/MT (3298 vs 3254 lbs for US cars). I've heard similar estimates as yours - maybe 25 lbs for the battery and 8 lbs for the glass and who knows for the rear seat delete, but it sure has to be more than 11 lbs [for taking out the rear seats]! To me, even w/o knowing the actual weight of the T's lighter equipment and its subtractions* it just doesn't add up.

*Not sure how many lbs the reduced sound insulation of the T subtracts (vs the S) but it's not much - supposedly it's about 3.5 lbs of sound insulation removed in a "base" GTS and roughly another 4.5 lbs if you get the Lightweight Pkg on a GTS but I have no idea if the T emulates the reduced sound insulation level of a "base" GTS or that of a GTS w/its Lightweight Pkg (or neither).

Originally Posted by Ikone

With the S and T, there's also the difference in brakes. I bet that is a major weight saving for the T. It's also unsprung and rotational weight.

Originally Posted by bobert75

Good point - I forgot about the brakes there. That makes it even more of a mystery as to how we can account for the T vs S weight difference!

Originally Posted by bobert75

I'm aware of the reduced sound insulation in the T (and happy about it) but you're tying two separate things together here - there's the rear seat delete and then there's the reduced sound deadening - nowhere does it say those two items are linked.

Originally Posted by bobert75

Good point - I forgot about the brakes there. That makes it even more of a mystery as to how we can account for the T vs S weight difference!

Originally Posted by Scott P

Maybe it would make a difference IF you were a f/t driver in IMSA/WEC series, otherwise why obsess over such things? Not being a *****, just a realist. In the grand scheme of things hp/weight ratios aren't really going to matter to us mere mortals.

Originally Posted by toph4242

Heavily debated... I spent a lot of time in the configurator playing with options and talking to Porsche about certain options: REALLY LONG STORY semi-SHORTENED:
-Configurator shows the sport exhaust as standard, which it is (If you zoom in on the interior toggle switches in the center of the dash below the PCM, the two toggle switches on the left side show as triangles... These are the "custom" buttons that you can program to be whatever you want...
-On every other 911 with sport exhaust, the second button from the left has the image of exhaust tips on it and allows you to turn sport exhaust on and off in any drive mode (Normal, sport, sport +) by just pushing that button
-In the T, that exhaust button does not show on the config...
-If you option the $430 Exclusive tailpipes, the configurator now shows the second button as the exhaust tip image...

You can still program the custom buttons to be exhaust, but they wont have the image on the button. THIS was something that a Porsche NA rep confirmed to be true... Many press cars and others feel that this is a configurator issue and not actually the case.
TIME WILL TELL who was right. WE dont have an answer, but many of us are opting for the exclusive tailpipes to ensure we get the button with the exhaust tip image on it.
Either way, car has the sport exhaust... unclear if you get the designated button without selecting the $430 optional exclusive pipes

Originally Posted by Scott P

Maybe it would make a difference IF you were a f/t driver in IMSA/WEC series, otherwise why obsess over such things? Not being a *****, just a realist. In the grand scheme of things hp/weight ratios aren't really going to matter to us mere mortals.

Originally Posted by bobert75

I knew someone would have this reaction. No one is stressing over it - I literally said "for fun" (just being nerdy about the numbers - doing "accounting"). I am in no way obsessing over the weight of my T in the slightest - FFS, I added the rear seats back (and my kids are grown).

Originally Posted by bobert75

In the past, I've wondered (for fun) exactly what accounts for the 44 lb difference between a Carrera S w/MT and a Carrera T w/MT (3298 vs 3254 lbs for US cars). I've heard similar estimates as yours - maybe 25 lbs for the battery and 8 lbs for the glass and who knows for the rear seat delete, but it sure has to be more than 11 lbs [for taking out the rear seats]! To me, even w/o knowing the actual weight of the T's lighter equipment and its subtractions* it just doesn't add up.

*Not sure how many lbs the reduced sound insulation of the T subtracts (vs the S) but it's not much - supposedly it's about 3.5 lbs of sound insulation removed in a "base" GTS and roughly another 4.5 lbs if you get the Lightweight Pkg on a GTS but I have no idea if the T emulates the reduced sound insulation level of a "base" GTS or that of a GTS w/its Lightweight Pkg (or neither).

Originally Posted by bobert75

I knew someone would have this reaction. No one is stressing over it - I literally said "for fun" (just being nerdy about the numbers - doing "accounting"). I am in no way obsessing over the weight of my T in the slightest - FFS, I added the rear seats back (and my kids are grown).