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My opinion, 992.2 T very likely. Zero chance it has NA engine as it is supposed to slot between base and S model. No way it gets a more desirable engine than the S/GTS models
Pretty sure your SE is manipulating you too. Most of them know even less about what Porsche is doing than we do. Most are great, hard working people. But they are grinding to live and don't have time for our games.
I don't want to see a 992 T. I have a 991 T, so do the math. Will be happy for all y'all that do want one, that join the T Army, and that will have put up with all the same hijinks that the rest of us do! Good luck!
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If there is actually a 992 T released with a 4.0 n/a engine would you look to change out of your 991 T?
If the answer for most is a no then it's less likely to have an n/a engine or less likely to even produce the car.
What Porsche have done with the 718 GTS is create such a demand for a car that all the press slated when it came out in 2.5 form, it's a 2 year wait for a Boxster now.. all for the engine.
The Engine that is good until 2026 for emissions, the engine that Porsche said will not only be in one platform also the engine that seems to be in low supply ( or are Porsche holding back supply so they have a few thousand to put in a 911??)
total speculation and guesswork but exciting no?
I guess we just need to wait another 12 months to see what happens
My opinion, 992.2 T very likely. Zero chance it has NA engine as it is supposed to slot between base and S model. No way it gets a more desirable engine than the S/GTS models
Literally how I have felt all day. I don't even remotely care if it only makes the 394 hp from the Boxster 4.0. That's plenty for me. Just give me that good 6 speed gearbox and NA throttle response. Now if only they'd make a Targa T...
In his recent appearance on the Smoking Tire Podcast, Lieberman also said that the turbocharged Carreras are significantly better than the NA cars. Matt Farah agreed. Both said that the 911 benefits from having grunt. Something to consider as well.
In his recent appearance on the Smoking Tire Podcast, Lieberman also said that the turbocharged Carreras are significantly better than the NA cars. Matt Farah agreed. Both said that the 911 benefits from having grunt. Something to consider as well.
I remain unenthusiastic about slower 992s. Power is what makes the 992 feel smaller than it is.
I think there were quite a few changes in the 991.2 gen that account for it being a better car (eg the 7 speed short shifter is improved substantially). I have yet to drive a 992, but 385 in my 997 felt like plenty. I suspect the feel of the size of the 992 can be largely addressed by adding rear axel steering. I think Farah has even said in one of his 992 reviews that rear steer makes the car feel significantly smaller.
Ultimately, I'd rather have the 6 speed manual gearbox with the normal gear layout (rather than the goofy layout 7 speed) than the extra 45 -ish HP of a Carrera S. there's a reason the GT3 doesn't use the 7 speed gearbox.
I think there were quite a few changes in the 991.2 gen that account for it being a better car (eg the 7 speed short shifter is improved substantially). I have yet to drive a 992, but 385 in my 997 felt like plenty. I suspect the feel of the size of the 992 can be largely addressed by adding rear axel steering. I think Farah has even said in one of his 992 reviews that rear steer makes the car feel significantly smaller.
Ultimately, I'd rather have the 6 speed manual gearbox with the normal gear layout (rather than the goofy layout 7 speed) than the extra 45 -ish HP of a Carrera S. there's a reason the GT3 doesn't use the 7 speed gearbox.
The difference in peak power really doesn’t tell the story of the S. It makes significantly power and torque than the Base throughout the rev range. Starting at 2500RPM, it makes more torque than the GT3 engine ever does. It makes more horsepower than the GT3 up until around 5500RPM. Turbocharging has its benefits.
The 7 speed is based upon the 7 speed PDK transmission, right down to the ratios. It’s not a great manual transmission, but it makes the fuel economy and regulatory folks happy. The 6 speed in the GT3 is a much better transmission.
If Porsche is going to start expanding the use of NA engines in the 911, that tells you they’re selling a lot of Taycans and expect to sell a ton of Macan EVs, because something needs to offset the fleet numbers. There would be no 992 GT3 with NA engine if the Taycan didn’t sell so well.
If Porsche makes a 4.0 992T. Every 991T will become obsolete. I don’t think Porsche would do that to the ‘T’ faithful.
Its still a great car so I don’t think it will be obsolete at all. Also if 992 T does get NA 4.0 with 6speed- it will have waitlist just as long as GT3 especially if its $50k less expensive.
I'm no insider, but again I will say it makes no sense to have the 4.0 NA in the Carrera T.
1.) Carrera T is supposed to slot between the base Carrera and Carrera S. The NA engine and 6 speed manual would make it more desirable than the S and possibly even the GTS.
2.) They have already stated it would be too costly to engineer the NA engine to fit the 992. No way the bean counters would allow it for just the small production numbers for the T models.
To me this sounds like the next iteration of pushing the 911 toward electrification across all trims: base, S, GTS. If Porsche can/decides to make the engine fit…Put the 4.0 in there with an electrical motor for boost (much like the Toyota Tundra). Now the engine has the kick of low end torque (better than turbos) and the desirability of a NA. The trim level would be based on output of the electric motor. How to make that into a MT would take an engineering miracle…but it’s Porsche so maybe.
I don’t see Porsche moving back to NA across any of its Carrera lineup without some type of electrification, but I hope I’m wrong.
02-06-2022 | 05:24 AM
Will be happy for all y'all that do want one, that join the T Army, and that will have put up with all the same hijinks that the rest of us do! Good luck!
