TomTarzian

But isn't that what they said about the GT3 motor not fitting in the 718 and then, voila, along comes the GT4 RS? But, I agree, not likely in the 992 T.

God bless you,
Tom

Carlo_Carrera

I'm pretty sure the engine in the GT4 RS is not same engine as the GT3, it just has the same displacement.

Rmag911

Actually, I think it is the same engine. I believe that's what Walliser and AP said on Spike's Car Radio. To be clear, the GT4RS does not have the same engine as the GT4.

And to be clear, this would NOT be the same 4.0 that is in the GT3. As Lieberman said, this would be the 3.0 that's ALREADY in the 911 Carrera. No need to engineer anything to fit. It already fits. They'll just punch the 3.0 engine out to 4.0 and drop the turbos, which is what they did for the Boxster 4.0 and GT4, which does NOT have the GT3 4.0. So it will make less HP than a Carrera S and very slightly more than a base Carrera.

Interestingly, if a Carrera T gets the Boxster 4.0, I think that means RIck Deman at Deman Motorsports could punch out the engine further to 4.5L, shorten the gear ratios, and get 560 hp and insane torque, like he does for the GT4. To me, that would be the ultimate 911, hands down.

911-TOUR

I love the 4.0 in the GTS/GT4/Spyder, but I'm not sure I'd like it in it the 911 - they'd have to massively redo the gearing (much shorter). Having lived 4 years now with the 3.0T in my Carrera T, I think this is one of Porsche's best engines ever and would be pretty sad not to see it in a 992 Carrera T.

Just my 2 bits from a current owner.

cheers!

3uros

I just can’t believe people here are actually taking Johnny Lieberman words as concrete evidence.. that guy’s guess is literally as good as any of ours..

TomTarzian

Yes, they said the motor in the GT4 RS is fundamentally the same motor as the one in the GT3, after--I'm pretty sure--saying the motor in the GT3 wouldn't fit in the 718.

Really good point. It should fit the 992 like a glove. Please do it Porsche...but not holding my breath!

God bless you,
Tom

22992

Wow..they can find 33% more displacement in the 3.0L? That’s nuts. Like turning a Chevy 350 into a 465ci engine. Even with a combo of boring and a longer stroke crank, it’s crazy to think there is that much extra space in there.

Rmag911

Even more than 33%! That's the same engine Rick Deman increases to 4.5L.

22992

Awesome. In my eyes that cements the 3.0L as legendary. I see a future where companies like singer are going to punch out the 3.0L, add big ol turbos and create 800hp monster resto-mods.

snapper911

Agreed! I don't know why people think the 3.0T isn't great. Especially in the Carrera T it has tons of character and is lovely (FUN) to drive in the real world. I grew up with air-cooled cars and I've driven a bunch of 997 and 991 S and GTS...and they all came across kind of boring, and recently, hard to use on the road due to the ample power.
Then again I remind myself there were only 2000 T's made...so how many people have actually driven one at length?

Carlo_Carrera

Well Porsche is making a Macan T.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/p...l-touring-suv/

How far behind can the 992T be?

ipse dixit

You give Lieberman too much credit.

Or worse yet, us too little.

ipse dixit

And it's still a turbo-charged engine.

jayson

Well, I think that brings credit to the argument that there will be a 992 Carrera T in some capacity.

detansinn

That 4 cylinder Porsche puts in the Macan has less character than an electric motor. It’s downright anemic and feels slower than the numbers suggest. The gas mileage is awful, because you’re asking that wheezy four banger to move 2 tons of SUV.

I know that Porsche needs a low cost entry point to the brand. As a poster child for brand dilution, the Base Macan is indeed Porsche’s Maserati Ghibli, but at least, Maserati saw fit to make the Ghibli sound like a Maserati.

Perhaps, the 992T will get the 4 cylinder 718 engine for those seeking an even slower 911 with doesn’t sound great. 😜