992 Carrera T Club
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What does make a T really unique in the lineup is the combination of these three: removal of sound insulation material, smaller turbos, and shorter shifter on the manual version. The lack of sound insulation truly changes the noise and makes the cabin noticeably louder from the driver's seat in a good way. The smaller turbos also change the character of the engine making it feel more naturally aspirated, which I know the base Carrera also has, but not in combination with manual gearbox and added noise from lack of sound-deadening on the T. Also compared to a base and S, I really like the feel and action of the shorter shifter height on the T, which I believe is identical to a GTS. In my experience, the shorter shifter, smaller turbos, and the extra cabin noise make a much more significant impact on what makes a T feel and drive different than the extra weight of the fluff options do (18-way, FAL, glass roof, etc). Hell, I even think getting lightweight forged wheels and carbon ceramic rotors to reduce unsprung weight and stickier Cup tires on this car would make a larger impact on driving character than some of the weight-adding factory options some here tell you not to get. So in my opinion, go nuts with the options and make the T your own. It's going to be a great car to drive no matter what. Only go with a super light-weight build if you what to eke out as much performance for frequent track use, or to save money. And at least try to get it in manual if possible just because the GTS-derived short shifter feels so sweet and I believe the manual version also has mechanical PTV (rear diff) which should further add to the playfulness and analog feel, though I'm not certain since I wasn't able to drive the snot out of the PDK T that I test drove.
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Wow all this because I simply said my T is so fun. Maybe i need to spend more time here again, ha. It’s incredibly fun because of the 400 watt sub and aftermarket exhaust! 😇😝
@jonbek My memory usually doesn’t fail me. Green T with 5 spoke HREs? How u liking your GT3. Anything u hate about it?
@jonbek My memory usually doesn’t fail me. Green T with 5 spoke HREs? How u liking your GT3. Anything u hate about it?
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The T is special because in manual form it is the most engaging, and thus fun, car for the street in the 911 lineup. It just has the right goodies: mechanical diff, SPASM, PSE, RAS, etc. The S, GTS and Turbos are too powerful and competent, and thus can be boring to drive on the street in PDK, and the GT3s are more suited for the track, especially in regards to the suspension and the engine really only coming alive at high RPMs (but what a sound it is!).
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@jonbek My memory usually doesn’t fail me. Green T with 5 spoke HREs? How u liking your GT3. Anything u hate about it?
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Agreed. Still, I’ll take made in Germany all day long for mass production autos. I could name a few countries I wouldn’t accept at all but that would be rude.
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If a Carrera T is spec'd right, the combination of low weight and small turbos provides a different feel than you get on other 992s.
A Carrera T with a PDK, 18 ways, sunroof, rear seats, etc... Will not feel nearly as special or differentiated as compared to other models.
A Carrera T with a PDK, 18 ways, sunroof, rear seats, etc... Will not feel nearly as special or differentiated as compared to other models.
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Agreed. Reading this epic thread alone would almost have you think that adding heavy options like 18-way, PDK, more leather, FAL, glass roof, and rear seats would have such a large impact on the weight that it dramatically changes the overall character and driving experience and basically makes it a different car. Having driven several Ts now from nearly zero-option lightweight builds to highly-optioned heavy builds, I say that's not really the case. To me, the added weight of the heavily optioned Ts makes no perceptible difference in the driving dynamics, sound, and feel of the car on the street, which makes me think this weight difference are likely only realized when driven near the limit at the track. The options that do make a more perceptible difference in the way the car drives are RAS (just feels different to me, not in any good or bad way) and of course PDK, because the gearing is different and you lose the engagement of a 3rd pedal.
What does make a T really unique in the lineup is the combination of these three: removal of sound insulation material, smaller turbos, and shorter shifter on the manual version. The lack of sound insulation truly changes the noise and makes the cabin noticeably louder from the driver's seat in a good way. The smaller turbos also change the character of the engine making it feel more naturally aspirated, which I know the base Carrera also has, but not in combination with manual gearbox and added noise from lack of sound-deadening on the T. Also compared to a base and S, I really like the feel and action of the shorter shifter height on the T, which I believe is identical to a GTS. In my experience, the shorter shifter, smaller turbos, and the extra cabin noise make a much more significant impact on what makes a T feel and drive different than the extra weight of the fluff options do (18-way, FAL, glass roof, etc). Hell, I even think getting lightweight forged wheels and carbon ceramic rotors to reduce unsprung weight and stickier Cup tires on this car would make a larger impact on driving character than some of the weight-adding factory options some here tell you not to get. So in my opinion, go nuts with the options and make the T your own. It's going to be a great car to drive no matter what. Only go with a super light-weight build if you what to eke out as much performance for frequent track use, or to save money. And at least try to get it in manual if possible just because the GTS-derived short shifter feels so sweet and I believe the manual version also has mechanical PTV (rear diff) which should further add to the playfulness and analog feel, though I'm not certain since I wasn't able to drive the snot out of the PDK T that I test drove.
What does make a T really unique in the lineup is the combination of these three: removal of sound insulation material, smaller turbos, and shorter shifter on the manual version. The lack of sound insulation truly changes the noise and makes the cabin noticeably louder from the driver's seat in a good way. The smaller turbos also change the character of the engine making it feel more naturally aspirated, which I know the base Carrera also has, but not in combination with manual gearbox and added noise from lack of sound-deadening on the T. Also compared to a base and S, I really like the feel and action of the shorter shifter height on the T, which I believe is identical to a GTS. In my experience, the shorter shifter, smaller turbos, and the extra cabin noise make a much more significant impact on what makes a T feel and drive different than the extra weight of the fluff options do (18-way, FAL, glass roof, etc). Hell, I even think getting lightweight forged wheels and carbon ceramic rotors to reduce unsprung weight and stickier Cup tires on this car would make a larger impact on driving character than some of the weight-adding factory options some here tell you not to get. So in my opinion, go nuts with the options and make the T your own. It's going to be a great car to drive no matter what. Only go with a super light-weight build if you what to eke out as much performance for frequent track use, or to save money. And at least try to get it in manual if possible just because the GTS-derived short shifter feels so sweet and I believe the manual version also has mechanical PTV (rear diff) which should further add to the playfulness and analog feel, though I'm not certain since I wasn't able to drive the snot out of the PDK T that I test drove.
The T ethos build questions had me thinking about all the noise around the PSE button before the first cars started arriving. Do you have to order the chrome tips to get the button or not? Hah. Well we all know now. Funny though that I pretty much never use that button. My wife pointed to the PSE button the other day and asked what it was. Start the car, turn the steering wheel **** to sport (which opens up the exhaust valves, turns the PSE button red) and drive on. Now that I have the car, I kind of wish there was a way to option that button out and have it be another programmable diamond...
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There has been so much debate over the right build, etc. I think what most have settled on is - do whatever floats your boat. It will be a great car for you. I can't imagine someone not liking or appreciating a T after driving it...while still allowing the possibility you might like a GTS or GT3 more.
Same.