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So again, lighter, better power to weight ratio of GTS 4.0/GT4……………..
power curve of the 992 3.0 TT has much more power throughout the entire rev band + Porsche definitely lying about the power figures more on the 3.0 TT vs the 4.0 means the 911 will be faster. I'd say a tuned 2.5 T 718 GTS will be faster than a stock or lightly modded 4.0 718 GTS because of the power curve.
718s are fun because they hold so much speed through a corner, its almost comical chasing down higher power cars on track through corners, but then the 911 can stomp on the throttle early and power right out and disappear. Different driving dynamics with the two cars.
power curve of the 992 3.0 TT has much more power throughout the entire rev band + Porsche definitely lying about the power figures more on the 3.0 TT vs the 4.0 means the 911 will be faster.
Base/T? Not a chance either of those is faster than the 4.0 as confirmed by pretty much every magazine test out there.
Base/T? Not a chance either of those is faster than the 4.0 as confirmed by pretty much every magazine test out there.
I find Car & Driver's Lightning Lap series to be one of the most authoritative, apples-to-apples comparisons of the capabilities of different cars in more than a 0-60 sprint.
The 2020 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 laps VIR in 2:50.3 (about the same time as a 2015 GT3). The 2018 Porsche 911 Carrera T does it in 2:53.4. A 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 does it in 2:54.0 and a 2011 Porsche 911 GT3RS does it in 2:55.9.
Car & Driver also found that the 718 GT4 is faster 0-60 (3.3 seconds with PDK, 3.7 seconds with a manual) than the 992 Carrera T (3.7 seconds with PDK, 4.3 seconds with a manual).
So, yes, the GT4 is faster, but they're both very capable.
I find Car & Driver's Lightning Lap series to be one of the most authoritative, apples-to-apples comparisons of the capabilities of different cars in more than a 0-60 sprint.
The 2020 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 laps VIR in 2:50.3 (about the same time as a 2015 GT3). The 2018 Porsche 911 Carrera T does it in 2:53.4. A 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 does it in 2:54.0 and a 2011 Porsche 911 GT3RS does it in 2:55.9.
Car & Driver also found that the 718 GT4 is faster 0-60 (3.3 seconds with PDK, 3.7 seconds with a manual) than the 992 Carrera T (3.7 seconds with PDK, 4.3 seconds with a manual).
So, yes, the GT4 is faster, but they're both very capable.
And that's the GT4 on Cup2s and with aero
I would say a better comparison is a Cayman 4.0 GTS vs the T, both on n spec Max performance Tires
I would say a better comparison is a Cayman 4.0 GTS vs the T, both on n spec Max performance Tires
They haven't tested it around VIR where different tires would matter but in the 0-60 the Cayman 4.0 GTS is only 0.1 seconds slower than the GT4.
Given the tire differences, they're probably both the same speed around a track.
I'm thinking how to bring in a little bit of the racing yellow exterior color into the interior. In my 991 T (also yellow) I had the yellow T interior package with yellow stitching, sport tex seat centers and belts. It looked good but sometimes I felt like it was a little too much yellow. On the 992, I'm thinking yellow belts and/or the sport chrono dial. What do you think?
They haven't tested it around VIR where different tires would matter but in the 0-60 the Cayman 4.0 GTS is only 0.1 seconds slower than the GT4.
Given the tire differences, they're probably both the same speed around a track.
On the Michelin website I found information that Cup 2 tires are .8 seconds per one minute of lap time faster than P4S.
I use this correction factor in looking at lap times comparing Carrera models to GT models.
I think your assessment is probably correct.
I'm thinking how to bring in a little bit of the racing yellow exterior color into the interior. In my 991 T (also yellow) I had the yellow T interior package with yellow stitching, sport tex seat centers and belts. It looked good but sometimes I felt like it was a little too much yellow. On the 992, I'm thinking yellow belts and/or the sport chrono dial. What do you think?
How did the yellow seatbelts hold up? I always worry they will look dirty over time.
911 T Allocations. Anyone have any updates on allocations projections for 2023. Two dealers in my area (Florida) both told me they expect to have and have received 1 allocation for all of 2023 model year. Being #2 on the list I should expect 2024 model year car unless something changes and more are released.
Very frustrating... then I talk to some dealers outside my area... and they act like no problem getting a 2023 and happy to put me on their list asking for deposit. Which is true? I tend to believe my local dealers that I have relationship with. Why so few 911 T being produced?
Just put in for mine. 2-year wait. Guards Red, 7-speed, Aerokit with painted sides, stripe delete, RS Spyder wheels. Going to get an M Engineering tune as soon as I get it. Should be fun with nearly 450rwhp @ under 3300lbs 😊
911 T Allocations. Anyone have any updates on allocations projections for 2023. Two dealers in my area (Florida) both told me they expect and have and have received 1 allocation for all of 2023 model year. Being #2 on the list I should expect 2024 model year car unless something changes and more are released.
Very frustrating... then I talk to some dealers outside my area... and they act like no problem getting a 2023 and happy to put me on their list asking for deposit. Which is true? I tend to believe my local dealers that I have relationship with. Why so few 911 T being produced?
To me, the big question is what is going on with 992.2. I don't imagine there being MY24 Ts if 992.2 is supposed to coming next year as rumored, but that's just my speculation of Porsche's production logistics. I would also be surprised if T allocations for the rest of MY23 have already been sent out, my understanding is that usually only happens with GT cars.
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