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Originally Posted by @Sapphirblue991
Anyone here planning on driving through the winter/snow? Or are you putting the 992 away for the winter? @ECNJ Putting away? On trickle charger. Ready to go any good weather day. From dawn to dusk to dawn. Pic from my drive the other nite at midnight. She kept up pretty good with friend’s 458. Not just bulls running wild in NJ if ya know what i mean….I’m so obsessed with my T! 🙃
I have winter tires on, I still daily mine here in Albuquerque, its getting to 30 and below in the morning every day and not over 55 in the daytime.
I DD my T. Just put the new winter shoes on it today
I know it’s been debated non-stop but is it really a must have? I’m not trying to optimize for cost but I’m aiming for a pure 911 experience so I keep waffling back and forth on the option in my build
Is it a must have?
Absolutely not. In fact, for most user cases, it's a must not have.
If you're aiming for a "pure 911 experience" it's a must pass.
RAS makes it feel less like a 911 and more like a 718.
RAS makes it feel more synthetic and less analog or "pure".
RAS is great if you're going to track the car often. That's the only user case that makes sense.
Even the small radius parking argument is nonsense. These are small cars with a small turning radius.
I know it’s been debated non-stop but is it really a must have?
Goodness, no.
Originally Posted by Wilder
Is it a must have?
Absolutely not. In fact, for most user cases, it's a must not have.
If you're aiming for a "pure 911 experience" it's a must pass.
RAS makes it feel less like a 911 and more like a 718.
RAS makes it feel more synthetic and less analog or "pure".
RAS is great if you're going to track the car often. That's the only user case that makes sense.
Even the small radius parking argument is nonsense. These are small cars with a small turning radius.
Is it a must have?
Absolutely not. In fact, for most user cases, it's a must not have.
If you're aiming for a "pure 911 experience" it's a must pass.
RAS makes it feel less like a 911 and more like a 718.
RAS makes it feel more synthetic and less analog or "pure".
RAS is great if you're going to track the car often. That's the only user case that makes sense.
Even the small radius parking argument is nonsense. These are small cars with a small turning radius.
YMMV
I think this is all fair...
One thing I will call out (As someone who has owned a Cayman S, a 991 without RAS and Currently Owns a 992T with RAS), I always felt so much more confident taking both Track and Street high speed corners with significant speed in the mid engine platform of the Cayman S. My 991 experience was never the best because I actually felt like a worse driver on track and even sometimes on the street moving out of the Cayman and into the 911 because I hadn't yet developed the driving skills to mimic the controlled slide in the 911 vs. the naturally planted feel of the cayman.
Driving GT3 and other RAS equipped cars on track, I understood the engineering psychology of giving "Confidence" to the driver by eliminating some of the uncertainty that comes with rear engine dynamics.
Is this less "Pure".... well I guess technically it is. I think its probably a more fair statement to say non RAS is more analog rather than Pure because I think owning a 911 in general means you've bought into the ethos of Pure driving pleasure that comes with a 911 when in reality there are so many other options that on paper make more sense... But we all know the 911 is a Pure Sports Car Enthusiast pick. @Wilder and I agree, its a use case decision point... I like track time and wasn't afraid to "buy" confidence... The only part that I disagree on is that its removed the "pure 911 experience"... It just doesn't impact the car enough for me to say that I've lost all of what makes a 911 a 911... You can still turn off traction and rip the back end (its harder, but possible)... and paired with a Manual Transmission and proper tires this car is a true 911
Ok, so I just want to say I really appreciate everyone's advice - this is my first Porsche so I'm pretty excited!
Little update here. I've ended up going for a bit of a compromise. The dealer I liked didn't have a commission number for me, so I made a deal with the dealer to pick up the pre-specced T when it arrives in a couple weeks, no ADM. I can then spec my own when their next allocation arrives and do the Euro delivery, then trade in the T I pick up now for the one I spec.
So obviously I lose a bit on the value between pick up and trade in, but the other dealer who did have a commission wouldn't give me it without an ADM. I figured at least the money I lose here goes into owning a 911 for longer, rather than just lining this dealer's pockets. They also did not give me a good vibe, and they seemed pretty shady about how they hand out future allocation. Didn't feel like I'd have a good long term relationship with them.
So I guess I've got a few practical questions for the hive - I'm gonna DD this car in the northeast, and will need some winter tires. I've read good things about the Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 and Pirelli Sottozeros, but what have people done about the wheels? I know porsche offer some kind of wheel deal (for 7K USD I read)... but that doesn't seem like great value. What have people done? Just buy the tires and put them on your regular wheels? Or go aftermarket?
Appreciate all the advice!
I got the car!!! SO nice to have it finally .
Quick question for anyone who has to display front plates - what solution did you go for? I don't want to drill a hole in my car for this.. but I also don't want to break any state law.
Quick question for anyone who has to display front plates - what solution did you go for? I don't want to drill a hole in my car for this.. but I also don't want to break any state law.
I'm from Silicon Valley and her win California they love to ticket cars without front plates. I've received so many fix-it tickets or that over the past 20 years...
A few pictures from Friday.
Inside, there are big changes (last visit - October 2022), the biggest since opening in 2009: less cars, more sitting places and a lot and lot of new "games" to "engage" the younger ones and teach them a thing or two about the cars and the make.
So, it got more "kids" friendly, but less enthusiast friendly in the process (almost half the cars compared to before and weird display grouping and placement...car that don't belong together, apart that both are build by Porsche, etc).
12-16-2023, 09:59 PM
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