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Not to rain on your parade, but given that we are on the same ship, you do know that it has been delayed? It is scheduled to arrive at its first port in Davisville, RI on Dec 23/24 and then it has to travel to Baltimore, unload there, and then make the journey to Jacksonville.
Edit: Added screenshot of live tracking.
OK, this is very strange and I need clarification. My charts show one 2 stops from Germany, Jacksonville and Miami. FL.
Last edited by Shortseller; 12-19-2023 at 04:19 PM.
why is it going to two ports? I was unaware Porsche used Baltimore ports.
Siem Confucius for this journey has always been scheduled for four North American port stops via Davisville, Baltimore, Jacksonville, and Veracruz, MX .
Edit: Added VAG ship scheduled with Siem Confucius itinerary.
Last edited by RatherJaded; 12-19-2023 at 04:06 PM.
Not to rain on your parade, but given that we are on the same ship, you do know that it has been delayed? It is scheduled to arrive at its first port in Davisville, RI on Dec 23/24 and then it has to travel to Baltimore, unload there, and then make the journey to Jacksonville.
Edit: Added screenshot of live tracking.
So no way it gets to my Naples FL dealership on 12/30? Damn those Porsche updates really suck!
OK, this is very strange and I need clarification. My charts show one 2 stops from Germany, Jacksonville and Miami. FL.
Many of us have told you multiple times to take whatever you see via Track Your Dream (TYD) and throw it out the window once the car has been loaded on a ship. It is totally inaccurate. What do you not comprehend about that?
No clue why you repeatedly refuse to accept live tracking as you are not getting that from Porsche.
Last edited by RatherJaded; 12-19-2023 at 04:09 PM.
@SEA2ATX I don't want to take away from your thorough analysis but to me, it reads like it's leaning against the wrong wall. Being on this thread for nearly a year and a half, the argument/concern against RAS has consistently been about how if affects feel, not reducing weight. I also don't ever remember anyone arguing that RAS is technically inferior. The problem is, and yes, this is anecdotal because we're talking about feel here, many journos and owners have reported that RAS makes the car feel less 911 and more mid engine, a sensation of intervention, and a synthetic feel. Given that most people drawn to the T bought into the marketing of "a purist's 911" many of us, myself included, don't see RAS as something that will add to that purism but rather take away from it. I for one, I'm fully aware that a RAS equipped car is ever so slightly technically superior, especially at the track, and passed on it not once but twice since I'm now on my second RAS-free T order. I'll gladly take the 15lb loss but the main reason I excluded RAS is wishing to keep the original 911 feel, even at the expense of some performance that many claim can't even be felt on spirited road driving.
A year and a half, that’s something!
OK since I’m a later comer to this “discussion “ of feel vs technically better, can I ask if you have ever drive a 2024 T with RAS? If you have then it’s a relative point you make from experience. If you haven’t, then its just hubris getting in the way?
Many of us have told you multiple times to take whatever you see via Track Your Dream (TYD) and throw it out the window once the car has been loaded on a ship. It is totally inaccurate. What do you not comprehend about that?
I was waiting for a correction. If not to come, then. Why does Porsche even bother?
Addendum; just called my SA for clarification. Hope to have an answer back this afternoon.
Last edited by Shortseller; 12-19-2023 at 04:13 PM.
I was waiting for a correction. If not to come, then. Why does Porsche even bother?
I fully suspect those of us that are on Siem Confucius will see our dates change once the ship docks in Davisville. Do not expect that update to happen on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day though.
I fully suspect those of us that are on Siem Confucius will see our dates change once the ship docks in Davisville. Do not expect that update to happen on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day though.
Im going to have to pull myself together and keep my inner child subdued. 🥺
Last edited by Shortseller; 12-19-2023 at 04:20 PM.
Another counter in the RAS debate: Remember that the 911's wheelbase has grown significantly over the years. RAS effectively shortens the wheelbase, bringing it back to the "pure" 911s we ALL harp on about.. And i maintain my stance that in no way does an RAS equipped 911 feel any less pure or any less "911-like". In all honesty I've yet to see or read a negative review on a 911 equipped with RAS. And trust me, I've seen and read a LOT.
Since it's a public convo, I want to give others context: Tim and I have known each other since 2005. We did PCA events together and have similar tastes (we both had multiple 993s and now own a T). Despite such similar tases, our opinion of RAS differs. Tim, I hear you, but to me, the 992 is still a small car. It only seems big when you put it side by side with an aircooled. It otherwise drives like a small car that doesn't require help turning, either at slow or fast speeds. Will it shrink the turning radius and help with parking? Yes. Will it sharpen the steering on turns at speed? Yes. Does it also have drawbacks? Yes. I won't repeat them here but yes, and big ones AFAIC. As for negative reviews, the editor of one of the best Porsche specialty magazines personally suggested I'd skip it. John Achilles said it's a must skip on his review of the GTS, and there are more I don't recall right now. Most of them will give you passionate reasons to skip it. Most who recommend it seem to offer no good reason beyond "it's good".
Don't forget that I had ticked off RAS about three times before permanently deleting it. It's not a good or bad thing. It's a personal choice.
Not to rain on your parade, but given that we are on the same ship, you do know that it has been delayed? It is scheduled to arrive at its first port in Davisville, RI on Dec 23/24 and then it has to travel to Baltimore, unload there, and then make the journey to Jacksonville.
Do you already know the camber and toe-in values you want to have, front and rear?
for my front tires, I will probably do a negative 2 or 2.5 camber I think I will leave the Toe at 0
The rear tires will be a negative 2 as well I dont think I need more. I think I might do .10 degrees out on the left and right side.
But I have to talk to the shop we go to. We will discuss what exactly is recommended for my driving style, how long I want my tires to last, and how many track days I will go to a year. I believe if I do camber like this I can get 10k miles per set of tires of highway miles or 12 track days Rocking Cup 2s.
He may also just recomend leaving it stock for a year or two so we shall see
Collected my T yesterday. Really pleased with the ED wheels....the whole car has a classic 911 look. Thanks to all who've posted on this thread. Kept me sane over the past 8 months whilst waiting for delivery!
for my front tires, I will probably do a negative 2 or 2.5 camber I think I will leave the Toe at 0
The rear tires will be a negative 2 as well I dont think I need more. I think I might do .10 degrees out on the left and right side.
But I have to talk to the shop we go to. We will discuss what exactly is recommended for my driving style, how long I want my tires to last, and how many track days I will go to a year. I believe if I do camber like this I can get 10k miles per set of tires of highway miles or 12 track days Rocking Cup 2s.
He may also just recomend leaving it stock for a year or two so we shall see
I'd start by maxing out camber in the front which will put you at around -1.5 depending on hight and then match the rears to that and 0 toe up front. It's basically stock RS setup for the road. The 992 has so much mechanical grip, it's not as reliant on camber as previous models. If you start doing more than a handful of track days per year, then get some camber plates and go with your plan.
Collected my T yesterday. Really pleased with the ED wheels....the whole car has a classic 911 look. Thanks to all who've posted on this thread. Kept me sane over the past 8 months whilst waiting for delivery!
12-19-2023, 03:51 PM
