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This was certainly true regarding the 991.2 Carrera T v. Carrera S. And my money is on there being the same difference with the 992.
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Would people really order a 911T with PDK? Just curious.
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People trying to rationalize getting a T and eliminating or not optioning every single thing that makes the T unique.
#1806
Three Wheelin'
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This is one of those myths floating around. People seem to think smaller turbos spool up faster. Probably someone mentioned it somewhere because they 'felt' that way and then it just stuck. I have yet to see any evidence of it. All anecdotal.
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balucipher (11-28-2022)
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Not throwing stones. There was a lot of complaining that the base 992 didn’t offer manual. I think if you mainly just commuted, a base model might be a more compliant ride. Arguably the rear steer in the T could give you a tighter turning radius.
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I’m with you, it’s a fair question. I would have optioned all the standard features of the T that were possible to option on a base C2. Mix in RAS, LSD, lightweight glass and the sound deadening / rear seat removal and it was a home run for me.
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adm63 (11-28-2022)
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I'm considering it, the manual definitely seems like the obvious choice in the spirit of the T but I can't fully ignore the option to go PDK for no cost and the potential benefits that come with it. Even ignoring the obvious conveniences since this is not a commuter vehicle for me, there are the performance benefits on track that I like the idea of. I know that for me personally, I can still find pleasure in shifting with the paddles when driving hard. Everything I have seen about the PDK suggests that it's a much better transmission than the MCT I have been able to enjoy in my C63.
I think either way I go I will have some thoughts about what if I had gone the other option. I guess I can think about it the same way I am thinking about the rear seats. I could always trade for another Carrera model down the line if I decide I want rear seats/PDK but the alternative options are T "exclusive" in one way or another. On the other hand I'm glad that Porsche at least allows the option since even with PDK and rear seats added for those that want them, I still think there are plenty of other aspects of the T that make it a unique and desirable model.
I think either way I go I will have some thoughts about what if I had gone the other option. I guess I can think about it the same way I am thinking about the rear seats. I could always trade for another Carrera model down the line if I decide I want rear seats/PDK but the alternative options are T "exclusive" in one way or another. On the other hand I'm glad that Porsche at least allows the option since even with PDK and rear seats added for those that want them, I still think there are plenty of other aspects of the T that make it a unique and desirable model.
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Gibberish (11-29-2022)
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There is no ethos or spirit of the T. It's mostly or all marketing. The T is the only model in the 911 line up where you don't get a more powerful engine moving up from the previous model (Base, T, S, GTS, etc.). What the T does is allow you to have additional options and features such as PTV, RAS, PASM. The 'lighter weight' can be argued. There really isn't much weight difference if you were able to spec a manual base. If Porsche had decided to open these options (RAS, PASM, MT) up on the base, there would be no T. You can't say that about the other models in the range since they have different engines or turbos. Having said that, I bought a T when it was first announced. Not for the 'lightweight' aspect, but for the ability to spec things that you couldn't on the base as well as PTV. Same reason I'm going with a 992 T. I don't need a ton of power, but I would like PASM, MT, and RAS.
Edit: I should add: If you are ordering a T, no one should be able to tell you what you should option to keep with the T 'ethos'. If the T speaks to you then it's because of an option or two and that's why you didn't go base model. There is no right or wrong. Porsche isn't dumb. They know people like us exist and we want certain options and we want a special car.
Edit: I should add: If you are ordering a T, no one should be able to tell you what you should option to keep with the T 'ethos'. If the T speaks to you then it's because of an option or two and that's why you didn't go base model. There is no right or wrong. Porsche isn't dumb. They know people like us exist and we want certain options and we want a special car.
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I tried to build a C2S as close as possible to my T build and it ended up being $14,640 more and would be missing the short throw shifter, option for buckets, and reduced sound deadening. The S gives you a lot more interior and exterior options and performance options like PDDC and PCCB and the option for Bose if you wanted though. The savings is even more on the PDK because sport is standard on the T but a $2790 option on the S w/PDK.
Overall I'm really happy with the T and the savings vs the S I originally put a demand order in on. I think it's a cool trim and I like that you can run it with full T badging and colors all the way to only having the mirror caps in grey to distinguish it from the other trims and it's been fun seeing how each of you configure yours.
Overall I'm really happy with the T and the savings vs the S I originally put a demand order in on. I think it's a cool trim and I like that you can run it with full T badging and colors all the way to only having the mirror caps in grey to distinguish it from the other trims and it's been fun seeing how each of you configure yours.
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#1813
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edit: configurator still has messed up wheels in gold lol
edit 2: nvm gold rims changed to the color I wanted now
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There is no ethos or spirit of the T. It's mostly or all marketing. The T is the only model in the 911 line up where you don't get a more powerful engine moving up from the previous model (Base, T, S, GTS, etc.). What the T does is allow you to have additional options and features such as PTV, RAS, PASM. The 'lighter weight' can be argued. There really isn't much weight difference if you were able to spec a manual base. If Porsche had decided to open these options (RAS, PASM, MT) up on the base, there would be no T. You can't say that about the other models in the range since they have different engines or turbos. Having said that, I bought a T when it was first announced. Not for the 'lightweight' aspect, but for the ability to spec things that you couldn't on the base as well as PTV. Same reason I'm going with a 992 T. I don't need a ton of power, but I would like PASM, MT, and RAS.
Edit: I should add: If you are ordering a T, no one should be able to tell you what you should option to keep with the T 'ethos'. If the T speaks to you then it's because of an option or two and that's why you didn't go base model. There is no right or wrong. Porsche isn't dumb. They know people like us exist and we want certain options and we want a special car.
Edit: I should add: If you are ordering a T, no one should be able to tell you what you should option to keep with the T 'ethos'. If the T speaks to you then it's because of an option or two and that's why you didn't go base model. There is no right or wrong. Porsche isn't dumb. They know people like us exist and we want certain options and we want a special car.
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