GT3RS Allocation Thread
06-19-2023, 09:14 AM
#1291
Some of my fraternity brothers were idiots, yet they became bankers who make much more than me.
06-19-2023, 09:15 AM
#1292
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06-19-2023, 10:03 AM
#1293
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but mr roofer sir, you had to use higher education indirectly by hiring lawyers...just pointing that out.
a lot of us will rely on specialists like engineers and lawyers or specific medical degree educated people to keep our butts in the driver seat and not in the morgue.
I'm a college dropout. I got more out of reading books and studying subjects in my spare time and it fits my learning style to read a lot. My specific skills were financially lucrative for a long time. Along the way I started and sold some small companies as well, since I'm a workaholic. I even designed a house (and built it) that got into Architectural Digest, and wrote a short industry book.
Some people are financially successful due to specialization that only occurs in a workplace over time. Generally- those people are very relatable and develop great social skills. People with 110 IQ's can out earn 130 IQ's. People with 140 IQ's can outmaneuver both of them but generally the tallest one with the nicest smile gets the best looking girls regardless of IQ. The world is a big place with a lot of niches and the happiest people tend to find theirs early and hang onto it. Some people are just harder workers and cannot see the reason other people go on vacation. We're all different.
"general" higher education is a big waste of money.
"specific" higher education is a great investment (DR, Engineer, etc)
I am a Proof of Work advocate. This can be taken multiple ways but the bottom line is that the best and most in tune businesses, people, ideas, etc succeed.
There is no final rule for everyone except: An RS is an RS. And if you aren't sure if a GT3 is for you, go get a Turbo S.
a lot of us will rely on specialists like engineers and lawyers or specific medical degree educated people to keep our butts in the driver seat and not in the morgue.
I'm a college dropout. I got more out of reading books and studying subjects in my spare time and it fits my learning style to read a lot. My specific skills were financially lucrative for a long time. Along the way I started and sold some small companies as well, since I'm a workaholic. I even designed a house (and built it) that got into Architectural Digest, and wrote a short industry book.
Some people are financially successful due to specialization that only occurs in a workplace over time. Generally- those people are very relatable and develop great social skills. People with 110 IQ's can out earn 130 IQ's. People with 140 IQ's can outmaneuver both of them but generally the tallest one with the nicest smile gets the best looking girls regardless of IQ. The world is a big place with a lot of niches and the happiest people tend to find theirs early and hang onto it. Some people are just harder workers and cannot see the reason other people go on vacation. We're all different.
"general" higher education is a big waste of money.
"specific" higher education is a great investment (DR, Engineer, etc)
I am a Proof of Work advocate. This can be taken multiple ways but the bottom line is that the best and most in tune businesses, people, ideas, etc succeed.
There is no final rule for everyone except: An RS is an RS. And if you aren't sure if a GT3 is for you, go get a Turbo S.
i personally never liked school because i prefer to give orders
1000 agreed RS is RS
dont need college degree to figure that one
06-19-2023, 11:03 AM
#1294
We’re talking about higher education, which is VERY different from K-12. Take some college philosophy classes, it’s the opposite of fostering a myopic view. You don’t really know what academia trains because you have no experience with it.
By the way, while I’m well educated (more than 200 college credits), I’m not an academic, I own an engineering firm and am a practicing engineer. But I generally have a lot of respect for academics, and have benefited from applying academic research to engineering practice. Being (just) a roofer, I suppose you’ll now take a dig at engineers …
By the way, while I’m well educated (more than 200 college credits), I’m not an academic, I own an engineering firm and am a practicing engineer. But I generally have a lot of respect for academics, and have benefited from applying academic research to engineering practice. Being (just) a roofer, I suppose you’ll now take a dig at engineers …
Now by the age of 18 I was already clearing 6 figures in the sales and services industry and as I became older and went through the corporate ranks to being a DM for a major fortune 100 I used to explain to my employee "what's the value to to your time?". Once you realize the value to your own personal time then you look at everything differently. When you're capable of making 4-5 figures per hour it allows personal freedoms no college course will teach you.
Sadly not many people understand this concept and this isn't something "higher education" wants you to know since once one realizes the world around them is controlled by the "Haves" that have figured out this and flourish on the "useful idiots" it allows someone to quite looking at life through the rose colored glasses of what they want their life to be, and in return makes those dreams reality.
Now since you take issue repeatedly to my username. I'll explain it for you. I get asked alot what I do and considering my daily attire consists of baseball caps and neon colored workout clothes accompanied with my discreet daily go bag/backpack with a pistol and SBR AK I kinda look like a goof ball especially when I get out of one of my cars. People read my license plates and can't help but ask.... "what do you do?" Which leads to.... yep you guessed it, Just a Roofer lol.
Oh and for what its worth, if you want to figure out the hardest way to get things done.... Hire an engineer lol. Takes a table full of engineers to achieve what a Redneck can get done in half the time and it'll be more efficient and reliable to boot.
Hell one of my roofers who runs crews made over 6 mil last year.... )who started roofing when he was 14yrs old to help his single mom with household expenses) and the biggest problems we fix are new construction. Why you may ask? Because engineering firms help new construction companies cut corners.
My favorite example of this with engineering is what's deemed "acceptable".... its like BMW M motors.... 1 qt of oil lost every 2k miles is just fine as far as the engineers are concerned lol. I loose less oil in 2khp modified diesel trucks pushing over 90psi of boost.
Back to Higher education though, I tried it.... then I looked to realize why take educational advice/ guidance from someone who accepts mediocrity.
06-19-2023, 11:10 AM
#1295
but mr roofer sir, you had to use higher education indirectly by hiring lawyers...just pointing that out.
a lot of us will rely on specialists like engineers and lawyers or specific medical degree educated people to keep our butts in the driver seat and not in the morgue.
I'm a college dropout. I got more out of reading books and studying subjects in my spare time and it fits my learning style to read a lot. My specific skills were financially lucrative for a long time. Along the way I started and sold some small companies as well, since I'm a workaholic. I even designed a house (and built it) that got into Architectural Digest, and wrote a short industry book.
Some people are financially successful due to specialization that only occurs in a workplace over time. Generally- those people are very relatable and develop great social skills. People with 110 IQ's can out earn 130 IQ's. People with 140 IQ's can outmaneuver both of them but generally the tallest one with the nicest smile gets the best looking girls regardless of IQ. The world is a big place with a lot of niches and the happiest people tend to find theirs early and hang onto it. Some people are just harder workers and cannot see the reason other people go on vacation. We're all different.
"general" higher education is a big waste of money.
"specific" higher education is a great investment (DR, Engineer, etc)
I am a Proof of Work advocate. This can be taken multiple ways but the bottom line is that the best and most in tune businesses, people, ideas, etc succeed.
There is no final rule for everyone except: An RS is an RS. And if you aren't sure if a GT3 is for you, go get a Turbo S.
a lot of us will rely on specialists like engineers and lawyers or specific medical degree educated people to keep our butts in the driver seat and not in the morgue.
I'm a college dropout. I got more out of reading books and studying subjects in my spare time and it fits my learning style to read a lot. My specific skills were financially lucrative for a long time. Along the way I started and sold some small companies as well, since I'm a workaholic. I even designed a house (and built it) that got into Architectural Digest, and wrote a short industry book.
Some people are financially successful due to specialization that only occurs in a workplace over time. Generally- those people are very relatable and develop great social skills. People with 110 IQ's can out earn 130 IQ's. People with 140 IQ's can outmaneuver both of them but generally the tallest one with the nicest smile gets the best looking girls regardless of IQ. The world is a big place with a lot of niches and the happiest people tend to find theirs early and hang onto it. Some people are just harder workers and cannot see the reason other people go on vacation. We're all different.
"general" higher education is a big waste of money.
"specific" higher education is a great investment (DR, Engineer, etc)
I am a Proof of Work advocate. This can be taken multiple ways but the bottom line is that the best and most in tune businesses, people, ideas, etc succeed.
There is no final rule for everyone except: An RS is an RS. And if you aren't sure if a GT3 is for you, go get a Turbo S.
To your point and as I have said, it has its place.
You're clearly a free thinker that likely looks for the reasons to "why" in things and you get the answers you seek through your own course of action.
It's a dying skill to be able to think for oneself, I think you'd agree.
06-19-2023, 11:37 AM
#1296
Sir being in Texas engineers come a dime a dozen, and all yall are the same. I never referred to you as an academic, rather spoke on the role of academia. Now that we got that cleared up. I'm greatful for your desire to expand your knowledge and clearly its done well for you. The thing I think you're missing is assuming you're in let's say Boiler design or downstream processing..... you and your team would equate to essentially nothing without skilled labor that more often than not didn't learn their abilities through studies, rather through real world applications.
Now by the age of 18 I was already clearing 6 figures in the sales and services industry and as I became older and went through the corporate ranks to being a DM for a major fortune 100 I used to explain to my employee "what's the value to to your time?". Once you realize the value to your own personal time then you look at everything differently. When you're capable of making 4-5 figures per hour it allows personal freedoms no college course will teach you.
Sadly not many people understand this concept and this isn't something "higher education" wants you to know since once one realizes the world around them is controlled by the "Haves" that have figured out this and flourish on the "useful idiots" it allows someone to quite looking at life through the rose colored glasses of what they want their life to be, and in return makes those dreams reality.
Now since you take issue repeatedly to my username. I'll explain it for you. I get asked alot what I do and considering my daily attire consists of baseball caps and neon colored workout clothes accompanied with my discreet daily go bag/backpack with a pistol and SBR AK I kinda look like a goof ball especially when I get out of one of my cars. People read my license plates and can't help but ask.... "what do you do?" Which leads to.... yep you guessed it, Just a Roofer lol.
Oh and for what its worth, if you want to figure out the hardest way to get things done.... Hire an engineer lol. Takes a table full of engineers to achieve what a Redneck can get done in half the time and it'll be more efficient and reliable to boot.
Hell one of my roofers who runs crews made over 6 mil last year.... )who started roofing when he was 14yrs old to help his single mom with household expenses) and the biggest problems we fix are new construction. Why you may ask? Because engineering firms help new construction companies cut corners.
My favorite example of this with engineering is what's deemed "acceptable".... its like BMW M motors.... 1 qt of oil lost every 2k miles is just fine as far as the engineers are concerned lol. I loose less oil in 2khp modified diesel trucks pushing over 90psi of boost.
Back to Higher education though, I tried it.... then I looked to realize why take educational advice/ guidance from someone who accepts mediocrity.
Now by the age of 18 I was already clearing 6 figures in the sales and services industry and as I became older and went through the corporate ranks to being a DM for a major fortune 100 I used to explain to my employee "what's the value to to your time?". Once you realize the value to your own personal time then you look at everything differently. When you're capable of making 4-5 figures per hour it allows personal freedoms no college course will teach you.
Sadly not many people understand this concept and this isn't something "higher education" wants you to know since once one realizes the world around them is controlled by the "Haves" that have figured out this and flourish on the "useful idiots" it allows someone to quite looking at life through the rose colored glasses of what they want their life to be, and in return makes those dreams reality.
Now since you take issue repeatedly to my username. I'll explain it for you. I get asked alot what I do and considering my daily attire consists of baseball caps and neon colored workout clothes accompanied with my discreet daily go bag/backpack with a pistol and SBR AK I kinda look like a goof ball especially when I get out of one of my cars. People read my license plates and can't help but ask.... "what do you do?" Which leads to.... yep you guessed it, Just a Roofer lol.
Oh and for what its worth, if you want to figure out the hardest way to get things done.... Hire an engineer lol. Takes a table full of engineers to achieve what a Redneck can get done in half the time and it'll be more efficient and reliable to boot.
Hell one of my roofers who runs crews made over 6 mil last year.... )who started roofing when he was 14yrs old to help his single mom with household expenses) and the biggest problems we fix are new construction. Why you may ask? Because engineering firms help new construction companies cut corners.
My favorite example of this with engineering is what's deemed "acceptable".... its like BMW M motors.... 1 qt of oil lost every 2k miles is just fine as far as the engineers are concerned lol. I loose less oil in 2khp modified diesel trucks pushing over 90psi of boost.
Back to Higher education though, I tried it.... then I looked to realize why take educational advice/ guidance from someone who accepts mediocrity.
You mentioned that your wife was an Anesthesiologist. As such, she would have completed 4 years of Undergraduate; 4 years of Medical School and then a minimum of 4 years of Anesthesia Residency; so 12 years of higher education. Do you feel that she regrets those years, or that they were wasted?
Not everyone should be encouraged to think that 4 years at University is mandatory, and that is a fallacy of our society to push that. You represent someone who has excelled and thrived without it, and more power to you. You got to your position via your own smarts and damn hard work, no doubt.
06-19-2023, 11:41 AM
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Sir being in Texas engineers come a dime a dozen, and all yall are the same. I never referred to you as an academic, rather spoke on the role of academia. Now that we got that cleared up. I'm greatful for your desire to expand your knowledge and clearly its done well for you. The thing I think you're missing is assuming you're in let's say Boiler design or downstream processing..... you and your team would equate to essentially nothing without skilled labor that more often than not didn't learn their abilities through studies, rather through real world applications.
Now by the age of 18 I was already clearing 6 figures in the sales and services industry and as I became older and went through the corporate ranks to being a DM for a major fortune 100 I used to explain to my employee "what's the value to to your time?". Once you realize the value to your own personal time then you look at everything differently. When you're capable of making 4-5 figures per hour it allows personal freedoms no college course will teach you.
Sadly not many people understand this concept and this isn't something "higher education" wants you to know since once one realizes the world around them is controlled by the "Haves" that have figured out this and flourish on the "useful idiots" it allows someone to quite looking at life through the rose colored glasses of what they want their life to be, and in return makes those dreams reality.
Now since you take issue repeatedly to my username. I'll explain it for you. I get asked alot what I do and considering my daily attire consists of baseball caps and neon colored workout clothes accompanied with my discreet daily go bag/backpack with a pistol and SBR AK I kinda look like a goof ball especially when I get out of one of my cars. People read my license plates and can't help but ask.... "what do you do?" Which leads to.... yep you guessed it, Just a Roofer lol.
Oh and for what its worth, if you want to figure out the hardest way to get things done.... Hire an engineer lol. Takes a table full of engineers to achieve what a Redneck can get done in half the time and it'll be more efficient and reliable to boot.
Hell one of my roofers who runs crews made over 6 mil last year.... )who started roofing when he was 14yrs old to help his single mom with household expenses) and the biggest problems we fix are new construction. Why you may ask? Because engineering firms help new construction companies cut corners.
My favorite example of this with engineering is what's deemed "acceptable".... its like BMW M motors.... 1 qt of oil lost every 2k miles is just fine as far as the engineers are concerned lol. I loose less oil in 2khp modified diesel trucks pushing over 90psi of boost.
Back to Higher education though, I tried it.... then I looked to realize why take educational advice/ guidance from someone who accepts mediocrity.
Now by the age of 18 I was already clearing 6 figures in the sales and services industry and as I became older and went through the corporate ranks to being a DM for a major fortune 100 I used to explain to my employee "what's the value to to your time?". Once you realize the value to your own personal time then you look at everything differently. When you're capable of making 4-5 figures per hour it allows personal freedoms no college course will teach you.
Sadly not many people understand this concept and this isn't something "higher education" wants you to know since once one realizes the world around them is controlled by the "Haves" that have figured out this and flourish on the "useful idiots" it allows someone to quite looking at life through the rose colored glasses of what they want their life to be, and in return makes those dreams reality.
Now since you take issue repeatedly to my username. I'll explain it for you. I get asked alot what I do and considering my daily attire consists of baseball caps and neon colored workout clothes accompanied with my discreet daily go bag/backpack with a pistol and SBR AK I kinda look like a goof ball especially when I get out of one of my cars. People read my license plates and can't help but ask.... "what do you do?" Which leads to.... yep you guessed it, Just a Roofer lol.
Oh and for what its worth, if you want to figure out the hardest way to get things done.... Hire an engineer lol. Takes a table full of engineers to achieve what a Redneck can get done in half the time and it'll be more efficient and reliable to boot.
Hell one of my roofers who runs crews made over 6 mil last year.... )who started roofing when he was 14yrs old to help his single mom with household expenses) and the biggest problems we fix are new construction. Why you may ask? Because engineering firms help new construction companies cut corners.
My favorite example of this with engineering is what's deemed "acceptable".... its like BMW M motors.... 1 qt of oil lost every 2k miles is just fine as far as the engineers are concerned lol. I loose less oil in 2khp modified diesel trucks pushing over 90psi of boost.
Back to Higher education though, I tried it.... then I looked to realize why take educational advice/ guidance from someone who accepts mediocrity.
Again, everyone isn't angling for money (though that may be your first priority, as evidenced by your repeated references to how much money you make). Some people go into a line of work because they find the work fulfilling, might even be a calling, and making money isn't much of a consideration for them. Case in point is Allan Holdsworth, IMO the greatest guitarist who ever lived, revered by his peers, but his family needed a gofundme to pay for his funeral.
Can't explain the value of rigorous higher education to you, you have to experience it for yourself, and not just a few random courses. It can give you perspectives that you can't imagine. Read books if you don't have the time or interest to take college classes.
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06-19-2023, 11:51 AM
#1298
I’m sorry your experience with higher education was unfulfilling. I think for a lot of us it was quite the opposite and frankly opened our eyes to so much of the World; science; literature, and on and on that we wouldn’t trade that experience for anything.
You mentioned that your wife was an Anesthesiologist. As such, she would have completed 4 years of Undergraduate; 4 years of Medical School and then a minimum of 4 years of Anesthesia Residency; so 12 years of higher education. Do you feel that she regrets those years, or that they were wasted?
Not everyone should be encouraged to think that 4 years at University is mandatory, and that is a fallacy of our society to push that. You represent someone who has excelled and thrived without it, and more power to you. You got to your position via your own smarts and damn hard work, no doubt.
You mentioned that your wife was an Anesthesiologist. As such, she would have completed 4 years of Undergraduate; 4 years of Medical School and then a minimum of 4 years of Anesthesia Residency; so 12 years of higher education. Do you feel that she regrets those years, or that they were wasted?
Not everyone should be encouraged to think that 4 years at University is mandatory, and that is a fallacy of our society to push that. You represent someone who has excelled and thrived without it, and more power to you. You got to your position via your own smarts and damn hard work, no doubt.
Oh definitely her educational experience was intense and frankly the field of Anesthesia being such a high stress focus definitely isn't worth the quality of life impact it has. She's 5 years younger than I am and being in the position I am I encouraged her to choose if she wanted to be a stay at home mom or work as minimal as possible (1 or 2 days a week tops) to remain with her group. I wouldn't want her to give up what she worked so hard to achieve and to that I do respect and appreciate anyone's application to better themselves regardless the course.
She asked me early on in dating "what was your college path", I said it was easy.... there wasn't one. Society has placed too much emphasis as you said on college and not enough on actual hard work.
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06-19-2023, 12:27 PM
#1299
I haven't visited this thread for a while.
Now I know why
Now I know why
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06-19-2023, 12:34 PM
#1300
So many contaminated threads these days, by just a handful who cannot get what they want. Move on.
06-19-2023, 12:35 PM
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06-20-2023, 02:22 AM
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