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Old 08-11-2023, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
FWIW, my GM told me today that he thinks 3RS may be done, but more 4RS are coming. But he's not sure, no solid info.
Nope
both are going to keep going
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Old 08-11-2023, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Your opinion, or you have actual solid info?
I have info from my dealer re: when I expect to get an allocation but I don’t want to start an argument about who’s GM is right and wrong - that’s a dead end.

Play out the logic - is there any scenario that they would cut off the 3RS now that makes any sense at all for a profit oriented enterprise?

Really - if it means I don’t get one then so be it. It makes zero sense that they would do that vs extending the run. They need to make more of these cars to hit return numbers to payback on design, investment in capital at factories, marketing etc; they would sooner run for another two three years to make the numbers work than cut it off now and lose money.
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Old 08-11-2023, 01:43 AM
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I don't think anyone knows for sure, PAG included.

PAG may intend to produce (or not produce) more GT3 RS cars, but there are things that may arise that are (1) unexpected or (2) not forecasted correct or (3) both.

So, at this point, who knows.

If you get an allocation, take it.

If you are waiting and don't, move on.

Life is bigger than a GT car.
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Old 08-11-2023, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I don't think anyone knows for sure, PAG included.

PAG may intend to produce (or not produce) more GT3 RS cars, but there are things that may arise that are (1) unexpected or (2) not forecasted correct or (3) both.

So, at this point, who knows.

If you get an allocation, take it.

If you are waiting and don't, move on.

Life is bigger than a GT car.
True, nothing is certain other than death, taxes, and the run rising in the east but if I were a betting man I'd bet more allocations this year and next year at a minimum.
Old 08-11-2023, 06:12 AM
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Was told that Porsche is really struggling to obtain the carbon parts for 3 RS and orders falling behind as result. To fill the gap Porsche plans on releasing more GT3 allocations soon. But like all dealer discussions who knows! I will say that my stripper 3RS order lock date did move up quite a bit recently however, so might be due to lack of WP?
Old 08-11-2023, 08:05 AM
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I've heard the same, shortage on rear wings, CF parts, brakes, and few body panels.
Old 08-11-2023, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by saksride
I've heard the same, shortage on rear wings, CF parts, brakes, and few body panels.
seems like most new cars get produced from porsche with shortages and a few months they catch up from the constraints.
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Old 08-11-2023, 09:01 AM
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this circus of misinformation gets tiring
we all understand supply constraints related to Covid and the war in Ukraine
but it seems that Porsche PAG is enjoying playing the games of shortages so it increases demand on their cars
one dealer GM tells you something , another dealer GM tells you the opposite
Classic example : GT3 production
CJ Wilson is on record here that production ends 9/23
GM at two dealers I know say production through the whole MY 2024
who do you believe ?
what is the truth ?
PAG should say for example : we are going to produce GT3 through the whole 24 MY , but numbers might vary because of supply constraints. To me such a statement is much more accurate than the BS we read here and stuff we get told
same should apply to 3 and 4 RS
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Old 08-11-2023, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pitt911
this circus of misinformation gets tiring
we all understand supply constraints related to Covid and the war in Ukraine
but it seems that Porsche PAG is enjoying playing the games of shortages so it increases demand on their cars
one dealer GM tells you something , another dealer GM tells you the opposite
Classic example : GT3 production
CJ Wilson is on record here that production ends 9/23
GM at two dealers I know say production through the whole MY 2024
who do you believe ?
what is the truth ?
PAG should say for example : we are going to produce GT3 through the whole 24 MY , but numbers might vary because of supply constraints. To me such a statement is much more accurate than the BS we read here and stuff we get told
same should apply to 3 and 4 RS
we all saw with the 991.1 RS that demand far exceeded supply, so Porsche was building these things longer than anticipated. We were getting new 2016s being delivered into 2017. Makes sense they would extend MY 2024 GT3 run as long as possible if demand still high. I already moved on from my 992 GT3 after nearly 2 years, now waiting for my RS.
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Old 08-12-2023, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pitt911
this circus of misinformation gets tiring
we all understand supply constraints related to Covid and the war in Ukraine
but it seems that Porsche PAG is enjoying playing the games of shortages so it increases demand on their cars
one dealer GM tells you something , another dealer GM tells you the opposite
Classic example : GT3 production
CJ Wilson is on record here that production ends 9/23
GM at two dealers I know say production through the whole MY 2024
who do you believe ?
what is the truth ?
PAG should say for example : we are going to produce GT3 through the whole 24 MY , but numbers might vary because of supply constraints. To me such a statement is much more accurate than the BS we read here and stuff we get told
same should apply to 3 and 4 RS

So true.
Old 08-12-2023, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pitt911
this circus of misinformation gets tiring
we all understand supply constraints related to Covid and the war in Ukraine
but it seems that Porsche PAG is enjoying playing the games of shortages so it increases demand on their cars
one dealer GM tells you something , another dealer GM tells you the opposite
Classic example : GT3 production
CJ Wilson is on record here that production ends 9/23
GM at two dealers I know say production through the whole MY 2024
who do you believe ?
what is the truth ?
PAG should say for example : we are going to produce GT3 through the whole 24 MY , but numbers might vary because of supply constraints. To me such a statement is much more accurate than the BS we read here and stuff we get told
same should apply to 3 and 4 RS
PAG has 0 reason to release those statements because all of the BS here helps add into the hype for the cars.
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Old 08-12-2023, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pitt911
this circus of misinformation gets tiring
we all understand supply constraints related to Covid and the war in Ukraine
but it seems that Porsche PAG is enjoying playing the games of shortages so it increases demand on their cars
one dealer GM tells you something , another dealer GM tells you the opposite
Classic example : GT3 production
CJ Wilson is on record here that production ends 9/23
GM at two dealers I know say production through the whole MY 2024
who do you believe ?
what is the truth ?
PAG should say for example : we are going to produce GT3 through the whole 24 MY , but numbers might vary because of supply constraints. To me such a statement is much more accurate than the BS we read here and stuff we get told
same should apply to 3 and 4 RS
Not sure why you think you would be entitled to this type of transparency from PAG/PCNA. Even if you got this information, it would be global and not relevant to your specific situation, i.e., you still may not get a car even if they build it until 2029.

I'm confident that PCNA/PAG does not tell different GMs different info. Meaning, either the GM does not understand the communication, did not receive the communication, or is misrepresenting the communication. Any of these scenarios results in the same conclusion...you won't know.
Old 08-12-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
you still may not get a car even if they build it until 2029.
do you think he’s homeless or something?
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
Not sure why you think you would be entitled to this type of transparency from PAG/PCNA. Even if you got this information, it would be global and not relevant to your specific situation, i.e., you still may not get a car even if they build it until 2029.

I'm confident that PCNA/PAG does not tell different GMs different info. Meaning, either the GM does not understand the communication, did not receive the communication, or is misrepresenting the communication. Any of these scenarios results in the same conclusion...you won't know.
I am talking about proper customer treatment and a good business strategy
Clarity of information is always better than ambiguity
I can sit with GM at bmw dealer and they can tell me when the next generation M5 which not due for another year
start of production : SOP this Date
end of production: EOP this date
and this is for several years time frame
it is in the interest of the company to be clear so people can plan their purchase
Also according to you only the GMs at Porsche dealers don't understand the communications from PAG , and all other GMs from other brands get the communication from their perspective companies

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Old 08-12-2023, 11:40 PM
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Porsche build and sold more cars during the Covid lock down times versus 2019 so thinking that they won't build more now that most all of the supply chain issues have cleared up is delusional. Sure some cares had parts that were in shortage (PCCBs, bucket seats, lithium batteries, etc) but they somehow have seemed to have navigated through those speed bumps.


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