Originally Posted by Greek Car Geek

I say this being a future owner of an S/T, and of course want my car to hold its value, and its specialness - but at the same time, I feel like special cars SIMILAR to this should be attainable and something to aspire to, like Jason Cammisa said in the 2Jasons-1car video, the things that make the S/T special are in the experience, and should be part of the base Carrera experience. I agree.

Maybe not everything that’s in the S/T should be included, nor could they for $90K because they’re just premium, expensive parts, but the idea of a purists model, perhaps with the 718 4L NA engine in a lightweight 911 T, or a package where you can get the mag wheels (since you CAN buy them aftermarket, so why not through the factory?) and the shorter final drive and dampening improvements…

Halo cars should totally exist - they are there to be unattainable and posters on the wall, and draw people to the brand, BUT the special parts of the halo car should make their way into future models.

Originally Posted by Greek Car Geek

I heard from a source that the dealers were notified about the 992.1 some time before it was announced to the public, and that they were told that the GT3 would be PDK only. Then someone who is a legend in the Porsche world was contacted and he made some calls, and the manual became an option.

Any dealers out there that can corroborate (the first part of) that?

If that’s true, then I’d say the S/T is Porsche’s Swan Song to the manual car.

As for the hybrid GT3, I was told by a different source that 992.2 would all go hybrid except for the base Carrera and the GT cars, and then 994 GT cars would have high-revving Turbocharged engines.

Originally Posted by Greek Car Geek

I heard from a source that the dealers were notified about the 992.1 some time before it was announced to the public, and that they were told that the GT3 would be PDK only. Then someone who is a legend in the Porsche world was contacted and he made some calls, and the manual became an option.

Any dealers out there that can corroborate (the first part of) that?

If that’s true, then I’d say the S/T is Porsche’s Swan Song to the manual car.

As for the hybrid GT3, I was told by a different source that 992.2 would all go hybrid except for the base Carrera and the GT cars, and then 994 GT cars would have high-revving Turbocharged engines.

Originally Posted by BrntRubber

I found the 2 Jason video interesting.

They claimed the RS 4.0 is an ST x1.5 as far as driving experience. I was surprised by this.

With a 675lts, f90 M5, a 992 3rs and an ST coming in a couple months I am thinking about a 4.0.

I would appreciate people first hand experience.

Thanks

Originally Posted by unotaz

LOL. I saw that in the video.

The hydraulic steering in the 997 is better than the electric systems in the 991 and the 992 for sure. I would say it’s 30% better. The weighting is certainly better for my taste. Gearbox action is certainly not. I prefer the unit in the ST.

Clutch is very heavy in the 4.0, so for me, heavy doesn’t mean it has better feel. The clutch in the CGT is heavy but full of feel. Speaking of the CGT, I’m not a fan of the steering in the CGT. It’s heavy but really with no feel. Throttle response in the CGT is Godly, especially during heel and toe, and the gearbox is like butter when driven in full tilt.

The truth is, none of these journalists have enough seat time with any of these cars, so their comments on these things are just “comments”.

I would argue that the steering in any Mclaren LT/P1/Senna are on the same level as the 4.0, if not even better than the ones in the Porsche. It’s that good.

Originally Posted by unotaz

LOL. I saw that in the video.

The hydraulic steering in the 997 is better than the electric systems in the 991 and the 992 for sure. I would say it’s 30% better. The weighting is certainly better for my taste. Gearbox action is certainly not. I prefer the unit in the ST.

Clutch is very heavy in the 4.0, so for me, heavy doesn’t mean it has better feel. The clutch in the CGT is heavy but full of feel. Speaking of the CGT, I’m not a fan of the steering in the CGT. It’s heavy but really with no feel. Throttle response in the CGT is Godly, especially during heel and toe, and the gearbox is like butter when driven in full tilt.

The truth is, none of these journalists have enough seat time with any of these cars, so their comments on these things are just “comments”.

I would argue that the steering in any Mclaren LT/P1/Senna are on the same level as the 4.0, if not even better than the ones in the Porsche. It’s that good.

Originally Posted by BrntRubber

I found the 2 Jason video interesting.

They claimed the RS 4.0 is an ST x1.5 as far as driving experience. I was surprised by this.

With a 675lts, f90 M5, a 992 3rs and an ST coming in a couple months I am thinking about a 4.0.

I would appreciate people first hand experience.

Thanks

Originally Posted by BrntRubber

I found the 2 Jason video interesting.

They claimed the RS 4.0 is an ST x1.5 as far as driving experience. I was surprised by this.

With a 675lts, f90 M5, a 992 3rs and an ST coming in a couple months I am thinking about a 4.0.

I would appreciate people first hand experience.

Thanks

Originally Posted by unotaz

LOL. I saw that in the video.

The hydraulic steering in the 997 is better than the electric systems in the 991 and the 992 for sure. I would say it’s 30% better. The weighting is certainly better for my taste. Gearbox action is certainly not. I prefer the unit in the ST.

Clutch is very heavy in the 4.0, so for me, heavy doesn’t mean it has better feel. The clutch in the CGT is heavy but full of feel. Speaking of the CGT, I’m not a fan of the steering in the CGT. It’s heavy but really with no feel. Throttle response in the CGT is Godly, especially during heel and toe, and the gearbox is like butter when driven in full tilt.

The truth is, none of these journalists have enough seat time with any of these cars, so their comments on these things are just “comments”.

I would argue that the steering in any Mclaren LT/P1/Senna are on the same level as the 4.0, if not even better than the ones in the Porsche. It’s that good.

Originally Posted by unotaz

LOL. I saw that in the video.

The hydraulic steering in the 997 is better than the electric systems in the 991 and the 992 for sure. I would say it’s 30% better. The weighting is certainly better for my taste. Gearbox action is certainly not. I prefer the unit in the ST.

Clutch is very heavy in the 4.0, so for me, heavy doesn’t mean it has better feel. The clutch in the CGT is heavy but full of feel. Speaking of the CGT, I’m not a fan of the steering in the CGT. It’s heavy but really with no feel. Throttle response in the CGT is Godly, especially during heel and toe, and the gearbox is like butter when driven in full tilt.

The truth is, none of these journalists have enough seat time with any of these cars, so their comments on these things are just “comments”.

I would argue that the steering in any Mclaren LT/P1/Senna are on the same level as the 4.0, if not even better than the ones in the Porsche. It’s that good.

Originally Posted by BrntRubber

Very interesting!

Thanks

I need to sell all my RHD cars shortly as moving to a LHD country that won't allow rhd imports. This is forcing me to think long and hard about what to do.

Originally Posted by neoprufrok

Apparently you and me have similar tastes… 675LT, M5 Comp, ST. I drove a 4.0 once. And it was otherwordly. It really is magnificent.

Originally Posted by Brian Himmelman

did u mod further lighten your 991R ie lithium battery -40lbs, exhaust -35lbs and wheel BBS -25lbs ? easy mods for -100lbs on already epic handling dynamics …

agree on steering feel as my 07 RS and 675LT provide unmatched feedback

tks

Originally Posted by BrntRubber

Very interesting!

Thanks

I need to sell all my RHD cars shortly as moving to a LHD country that won't allow rhd imports. This is forcing me to think long and hard about what to do.