PTS

Will Porsche allow a customer to delay their S/T build until CXX is open?

I don't care how long it takes to get my car I'd rather wait and get it exactly how I want it

John Loh

Thanks for the heads up on this thread that specific Limitation Numbers can be chosen. Reviewed the available numbers with my SA in an email from Porsche Canada. Surprisingly still lots of numbers left, presumably because the US allocations have only recently trickled out. #1088/1963

MattDFW

I'm hearing it's a very tight production window so I'm doubtful that will be the case. Sound like Porsche is trying to knock these out the first 6 months of 2024.

PTS

Plenty of US guys with July production dates..

I haven't been told mine yet

MattDFW

(Jan-Aug) I should have clarified.

PTS

An August build would hypothetically go to Sonderwunsch in Sept?

Wilder

This is a worldwide phenomenon. Same global conditions that created it are now at play swinging the other way. Perhaps with regional variances.

Summary: 991/992 GTx and Turbos are sitting unsold for months in the UK. Dealers are slashing prices by $10-25k and still no sale, verified through a new autotrader pricing tracking tool. Conclusion: PAG produced too many GTx and Turbos since Covid and now dealers and speculators are trying to dump in a fairly saturated market.

Does this correlate to a good number of STs at MSRP? Seems like most SC and Dakar buyers paid ADMs and everyone here expected big ADMs on the ST which seems to not be happening entirely.

kyrocks

you’re welcome !

PTS

Nothing to do with how many MSRP S/T allocations. The MSRP cars are going to best customers of a store. Where are you getting information that more SC and Dakars had ADMs compared to ST?

Brainofjjj

There are Dakar allocations just sitting there unused. I want an ST but i'm not paying these huge ADMs.

kyrocks

Probably not. Will probably lose your spot if you delay.

Marcus799

Me too! 😉👍 „0583“

Diablo Dude

The UK economy is nowhere near as robust as that of the U.S.
Not even in the same galaxy really. The last time the UK reported GDP growth >1.0% was in Q4 of 2021 at 1.5%
UK has been flat as a pancake


US Q3 GDP: 4.9%
UK Q3 GDP: 0.5% estimate

The UK is actually looking at a 0.2% contraction for 2023.

UK quarterly GDP growth 2023 | Statista

UK GDP forecast 2023 | Statista

Wilder

Sounds like an assumption on your end re ST MSRP. Kyrocks is an example of paying MSRP with no prior relationship. The theory in the video may have been tested using UK data but the key drivers are global and at minimum, we can all see a similar softening of prices on BAT and a softening of ADMs in the US across the model range. MSRP to good customers is a given and a moot point. As for where I got the info re SC and Dakars, I said "seems". I don't have empirical data. Just anecdotal.

Wilder

Again, not a UK or EU phenomenon but worldwide. Effects of Covid and Ukraine are global, not regional.

There is a lag between reality and perception when things begin to change. I'm trying to have a conversation about that. I'm not taking a position.