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Old 11-09-2023 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dave2020
Would be interested in your thoughts on necessity of FAL on S/T vs. weight penalty.
This is really dependent on where you drive. You don’t need the FAL in many places, but it’s very handy in others. If you already have a GT3, then you should be able to answer this question for yourself. How often does it scrape or require the FAL?

Also, if you do scrape up the plastic lip the replacement cost is relatively mild and it's a pretty easy DIY. But some really bad driveways may mean the Lift is the difference between getting up or not (I try to avoid anything this severe, even with the lift).

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Old 11-09-2023 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
This is really dependent on where you drive. You don’t need the FAL in many places, but it’s very handy in others. If you already have a GT3, then you should be able to answer this question for yourself. How often does it scrape or require the FAL?
That's the thing. It's like trying to prove the negative. When I remember to use it, I suppose it worked. But I usually forget to employ it and never really had any cringe worthy moments. If anything, it's the potholes in the northeast that are the biggest problem and can't really use FAL for those. Do you offhand know the weight of the FAL system?

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Old 11-09-2023 | 07:52 PM
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No extended tank (no FAL for last 3 GT cars) for me this time.

I go weeks without filling up and I actually like putting gas in the car and chatting with people.

Anyone able to get the watch now? I haven’t asked, but how does it work, do I have to wait for the car?
Old 11-09-2023 | 07:55 PM
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How much does fal weigh? Can anyone tell the difference between driving a fal or non fal car?

Anyone know if the black and cognac interiors are materially different weight, seems like the only real change is the gt3 rs carbon fiber door handle in the black interior car
Old 11-09-2023 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmos
No extended tank (no FAL for last 3 GT cars) for me this time.

I go weeks without filling up and I actually like putting gas in the car and chatting with people.

Anyone able to get the watch now? I haven’t asked, but how does it work, do I have to wait for the car?
If you want the VIN or car number engraved on the watch would need to know that.
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^ wait, what? No one ever mentioned that to me. So this is possible and I just tell my dealer?
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Originally Posted by dave2020
That's the thing. It's like trying to prove the negative. When I remember to use it, I suppose it worked. But I usually forget to employ it and never really had any cringe worthy moments. If anything, it's the potholes in the northeast that are the biggest problem and can't really use FAL for those. Do you offhand know the weight of the FAL system?
Sounds like you are a good candidate to skip FAL. Don't remember the weight, but I'm sure it's double-digit pounds (for some reason 14 pounds comes to mind, but could be more)
Old 11-09-2023 | 08:29 PM
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^ wait, what? No one ever mentioned that to me. So this is possible and I just tell my dealer?
I think you could engrave whatever you want on the regular PD design watches. On the S/T watch, they are numbered on the back xxxx/1963. I believe, if getting watch, most would want it to match the car's number.
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Old 11-09-2023 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
This is really dependent on where you drive. You don’t need the FAL in many places, but it’s very handy in others. If you already have a GT3, then you should be able to answer this question for yourself. How often does it scrape or require the FAL?

Also, if you do scrape up the plastic lip the replacement cost is relatively mild and it's a pretty easy DIY. But some really bad driveways may mean the Lift is the difference between getting up or not (I try to avoid anything this severe, even with the lift).
FAL can be a deal breaker during re-sale though.
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Old 11-09-2023 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by No Way PDK
FAL can be a deal breaker during re-sale though.
I've gotten it previously, admittedly, out of fear since it seemed like a must looking through prior RL posts. Having it now, I don't think it is a must. But I suppose it depends on your unique circumstances. For the S/T, it seems counter to the lightweight ethos.
Old 11-09-2023 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dave2020
I've gotten it previously, admittedly, out of fear since it seemed like a must looking through prior RL posts. Having it now, I don't think it is a must. But I suppose it depends on your unique circumstances. For the S/T, it seems counter to the lightweight ethos.
FAL is the only “weight-add” option in my build, and at least it’s located in the right place. I don’t use it much on my 991.2, but it’s very handy to have unless your location is flat as a pancake. I dislike using resale as justification yet it is a factor.

Extended fuel tank is a no brainer….and one doesn’t HAVE to put more fuel than the capacity of the standard tank if weight is a concern. On trips, the large tank is essential.

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Old 11-09-2023 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
statistically there are only 50-100 non 918 ST's getting allocated so that seems like a lot.
Ultimately, how many STs do you understand the US receiving including both 918 VIPs and non-VIPs?
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Originally Posted by No Way PDK
FAL can be a deal breaker during re-sale though.
This. I refuse to buy a use GT3 without FAL, not out of idealism, out of pragmatism. I drove my GT cars a lot... to work etc. And while routine drives, I could easily do the sideways climb... it's when I take a spontaneous drive and I run into a driveway that looks rap video badonkadonks... giant sides with a hidden valley... that FAL gives me piece of mind that I a) won't jack up the lip and other associated underthings and b) won't look like that dude who has no idea how to drive their car.

If you got the skills to crab walk that GT3 up Sir Mix A Lot's favorite driveways... hey.. hats off to you. Me? I ain't got time to scrape.
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Old 11-09-2023 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
The UK economy is nowhere near as robust as that of the U.S.
Not even in the same galaxy really. The last time the UK reported GDP growth >1.0% was in Q4 of 2021 at 1.5%
UK has been flat as a pancake


US Q3 GDP: 4.9%
UK Q3 GDP: 0.5% estimate

The UK is actually looking at a 0.2% contraction for 2023.

UK quarterly GDP growth 2023 | Statista

UK GDP forecast 2023 | Statista
“we’re going to **** all our trading partners and raise tariffs across all industries” has worked out about as well as anyone should have predicted. Brexit had all the intellectual rigor of shoving your dick into a wood chipper
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Originally Posted by Ksdaoski
Where are the sitting Dakar allocation?
My dealer in NorCal was very confident he could get one back in September if I was serious. About adm. As cool as the Dakar is, it’s not a use case for me, so I didn’t ask what the adm would be.


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