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I’m having trouble contemplating whether it’s worth the extra $20k to get a different color (versus a mere $4k for silver) and then another $20k to go for the gorgeous heritage interior. $40k seems a lot against the base price.
Given we don’t own cars forever, does this make sense?
Take the Heritage interior. The exterior colour can always be wrapped. You can't wrap the interior.
Playing around with the configuration and question whether it’s “worth” the extra $20k to get a different color (versus a mere $4k for silver) and then another $20k to go for the gorgeous heritage interior. $40k seems a lot against an already expensive base price. Seems hard to justify. Do most on these cars go for special colors which could help or hurt if ever resold?
I prefer the black interior and will likely speck the launch black car if I get the allocation.
Take the Heritage interior. The exterior colour can always be wrapped. You can't wrap the interior.
And the Heritage interior is gorgeous.
The cognac / tan interior is not my thing. A lot of people like it though. I prefer black interior, carbon door handles, and deviated stitching. Just me.
That only applies to most, not all. There will be select few that has the privilege.
I have a guaranteed car, yet I am not taking it.
Me? You talking about me?
I will probably get a 993TT, a 930 turbo, a narrow body 89 Speedster, a wide body 89 Speedster, a 73 RS, a 356 Speedster, a 3.0 SC, a 912E, a 964RS, a 911 Carrera GT or a CGT, in that order, before I will consider a S/T.
A modern Porsche manual does not excite me. They are too sterile, too precise. There is no challenge at all rowing your own gear in a modern Porsche manual, it's like clicking the shift pedals, short, precise. The charm in driving a manual car is that one needs skills, modern Porsche manuals do not need any skill, if you have 2 arms and 2 legs intact you can do it. You can't miss a shift, you know absolutely sure which gear you in whenever you touches the gear ****, the guessing game is gone. The fun of guessing is that 4th or 2nd is no more, which means the clutch pedal is now just a switch, there is no more slowing feeling if that's the wrong gear with your left leg and kick it in again to try again. Without that challenge, one might as well drive a PDK and use the shift pedals as they works exactly the same now.
I'm sure some of the folks on here will think that are you absolutely nuts for not taking your MSRP allocation. For me it will be amusing that there will be some people who'll pay $500k-$600k for the car when that price level you get into cars like the 911R, 997 4L, 997 GT2RS, etc just in the Porsche world. There are people who have the money to stroke that kind of check for the car but they don't see the value proposition.
I'm sure some of the folks on here will think that are you absolutely nuts for not taking your MSRP allocation. For me it will be amusing that there will be some people who'll pay $500k-$600k for the car when that price level you get into cars like the 911R, 997 4L, 997 GT2RS, etc just in the Porsche world. There are people who have the money to stroke that kind of check for the car but they don't see the value proposition.
In other words, those that are able to buy anything they want didn't get there by buying everything they can.
That only applies to most, not all. There will be select few that has the privilege.
I have a guaranteed car, yet I am not taking it.
Me? You talking about me?
I will probably get a 993TT, a 930 turbo, a narrow body 89 Speedster, a wide body 89 Speedster, a 73 RS, a 356 Speedster, a 3.0 SC, a 912E, a 964RS, a 911 Carrera GT or a CGT, in that order, before I will consider a S/T.
A modern Porsche manual does not excite me. They are too sterile, too precise. There is no challenge at all rowing your own gear in a modern Porsche manual, it's like clicking the shift pedals, short, precise. The charm in driving a manual car is that one needs skills, modern Porsche manuals do not need any skill, if you have 2 arms and 2 legs intact you can do it. You can't miss a shift, you know absolutely sure which gear you in whenever you touches the gear ****, the guessing game is gone. The fun of guessing is that 4th or 2nd is no more, which means the clutch pedal is now just a switch, there is no more slowing feeling if that's the wrong gear with your left leg and kick it in again to try again. Without that challenge, one might as well drive a PDK and use the shift pedals as they works exactly the same now.
Time to move on. Many opinions, different circumstances. Will it affect success of the car? No.
I'm sure some of the folks on here will think that are you absolutely nuts for not taking your MSRP allocation. For me it will be amusing that there will be some people who'll pay $500k-$600k for the car when that price level you get into cars like the 911R, 997 4L, 997 GT2RS, etc just in the Porsche world. There are people who have the money to stroke that kind of check for the car but they don't see the value proposition.
Some people have enough money that $100-200k+ gained or lost on a car transaction just doesn't matter to them. Most people on RL (including me) aren't in that category, but some definitely are. I like to read about how truly rich people think about this stuff.
my butcher just introduced the Greta special, it’s a limited edition filet. He says Greata sang to it while it was getting slaughtered so it has an extra sweet taste of endorphins only select few get a chance to tatse. I hear it’s way better than the “normal” filet, but don’t hate that the price is 2x as much. You just hate it because it can’t have it.
Porsche's configuration page for the ST is getting weird. The Extended Range Fuel Tank option promises that a "Image Coming Soon." What are they going to show us, exactly - two red portable tanks that are custom fitted behind the seats? Also, I think someone at Porsche has a key fetish. There are no fewer than 5 different sets of key options with innumerable selections within each.
The only thing missing from the options list for me are Full Bucket Seats that FOLD.
I will probably get a 993TT, a 930 turbo, a narrow body 89 Speedster, a wide body 89 Speedster, a 73 RS, a 356 Speedster, a 3.0 SC, a 912E, a 964RS, a 911 Carrera GT or a CGT, in that order, before I will consider a S/T.
That only applies to most, not all. There will be select few that has the privilege.
I have a guaranteed car, yet I am not taking it.
Me? You talking about me?
I will probably get a 993TT, a 930 turbo, a narrow body 89 Speedster, a wide body 89 Speedster, a 73 RS, a 356 Speedster, a 3.0 SC, a 912E, a 964RS, a 911 Carrera GT or a CGT, in that order, before I will consider a S/T.
A modern Porsche manual does not excite me. They are too sterile, too precise. There is no challenge at all rowing your own gear in a modern Porsche manual, it's like clicking the shift pedals, short, precise. The charm in driving a manual car is that one needs skills, modern Porsche manuals do not need any skill, if you have 2 arms and 2 legs intact you can do it. You can't miss a shift, you know absolutely sure which gear you in whenever you touches the gear ****, the guessing game is gone. The fun of guessing is that 4th or 2nd is no more, which means the clutch pedal is now just a switch, there is no more slowing feeling if that's the wrong gear with your left leg and kick it in again to try again. Without that challenge, one might as well drive a PDK and use the shift pedals as they works exactly the same now.
having owned many of those cars, I’d suggest a different order.
911’s
two essential early ones are
1. 1967 911S swb
2. 1973 RS (or a 2.2 liter 1970/71 S)
later 911’s
1. 964 RS is great. I’d skip the 993 tt
356’s
1. I prefer the look of the A’s so
- speedster or a convertible and.
2. An A coupe (56 to 59). Cheaper to get a B or C so your preference on price point. Later have better transmissions, steering box, etc.
928
1. A first year or two. Let’s say 1978. Auto’s fit these well. Best looks. Some like the last GTS butnthey
are body kitted out by then
930 turbo
1. Love the looks. Hate the turbo lag. Be careful. Not much fun to drive. I like the early 3 liters.
so I’d get first an early 911 and a 356 to start. Most driving events. Variety.
I built a Carrera T in 2019 and got 5% discount / put KW adjustable springs to keep the pasm to lower it. Did Akrapovic system with cats. Manual 390 WHP / RWS. Was a really fun car for two years. Put 26,000 miles on it ! Traded it in and built 992 GT3 manual in the first round of drops.
I loved mine and never saw any at shows etc
Some people have enough money that $100-200k+ gained or lost on a car transaction just doesn't matter to them. Most people on RL (including me) aren't in that category, but some definitely are. I like to read about how truly rich people think about this stuff.
I'm sure both you and I can burn $100k-$200k on an ADM without an issue but we just choose not to. My focus is keeping as much capital ready to help my contingent buyers.
08-24-2023, 01:32 AM
For me it will be amusing that there will be some people who'll pay $500k-$600k for the car when that price level you get into cars like the 911R, 997 4L, 997 GT2RS, etc just in the Porsche world. There are people who have the money to stroke that kind of check for the car but they don't see the value proposition.
I made one impulsive $50k ADM purchase for the 991.1 GT3RS and after that I said never again.
