911ST
#4126
I don't care how long it takes to get my car I'd rather wait and get it exactly how I want it
Last edited by PTS; 11-09-2023 at 12:10 PM.
#4127
Thanks for the heads up on this thread that specific Limitation Numbers can be chosen. Reviewed the available numbers with my SA in an email from Porsche Canada. Surprisingly still lots of numbers left, presumably because the US allocations have only recently trickled out. #1088/1963
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kyrocks (11-09-2023)
#4129
I haven't been told mine yet
Last edited by PTS; 11-09-2023 at 12:15 PM.
#4132
Summary: 991/992 GTx and Turbos are sitting unsold for months in the UK. Dealers are slashing prices by $10-25k and still no sale, verified through a new autotrader pricing tracking tool. Conclusion: PAG produced too many GTx and Turbos since Covid and now dealers and speculators are trying to dump in a fairly saturated market.
Does this correlate to a good number of STs at MSRP? Seems like most SC and Dakar buyers paid ADMs and everyone here expected big ADMs on the ST which seems to not be happening entirely.
#4133
Thanks for the heads up on this thread that specific Limitation Numbers can be chosen. Reviewed the available numbers with my SA in an email from Porsche Canada. Surprisingly still lots of numbers left, presumably because the US allocations have only recently trickled out. #1088/1963
#4134
Nothing to do with how many MSRP S/T allocations. The MSRP cars are going to best customers of a store. Where are you getting information that more SC and Dakars had ADMs compared to ST?
#4136
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jez_991S (11-10-2023)
#4138
Not even in the same galaxy really. The last time the UK reported GDP growth >1.0% was in Q4 of 2021 at 1.5%
UK has been flat as a pancake
US Q3 GDP: 4.9%
UK Q3 GDP: 0.5% estimate
The UK is actually looking at a 0.2% contraction for 2023.
UK quarterly GDP growth 2023 | Statista
UK GDP forecast 2023 | Statista
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AlexCeres (11-09-2023)
#4139
Sounds like an assumption on your end re ST MSRP. Kyrocks is an example of paying MSRP with no prior relationship. The theory in the video may have been tested using UK data but the key drivers are global and at minimum, we can all see a similar softening of prices on BAT and a softening of ADMs in the US across the model range. MSRP to good customers is a given and a moot point. As for where I got the info re SC and Dakars, I said "seems". I don't have empirical data. Just anecdotal.
#4140
The UK economy is nowhere near as robust as that of the U.S.
Not even in the same galaxy really. The last time the UK reported GDP growth >1.0% was in Q4 of 2021 at 1.5%
UK has been flat as a pancake
US Q3 GDP: 4.9%
UK Q3 GDP: 0.5% estimate
The UK is actually looking at a 0.2% contraction for 2023.
UK quarterly GDP growth 2023 | Statista
UK GDP forecast 2023 | Statista
Not even in the same galaxy really. The last time the UK reported GDP growth >1.0% was in Q4 of 2021 at 1.5%
UK has been flat as a pancake
US Q3 GDP: 4.9%
UK Q3 GDP: 0.5% estimate
The UK is actually looking at a 0.2% contraction for 2023.
UK quarterly GDP growth 2023 | Statista
UK GDP forecast 2023 | Statista
There is a lag between reality and perception when things begin to change. I'm trying to have a conversation about that. I'm not taking a position.