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08-21-2023, 12:13 AM
#2551
Nope. I Don’t chase trends. Passed on plenty of badge-engineered special editions. Cars need to speak to me (subjectively). The S/T does (very much like my R but not any of the tourings or special editions) I’m fortunate .. I’ve owned maybe 50 Porsches over the years. Bought them in good macroeconomic times and bad. Dad was a janitor and I started a few companies and did well. My Carrera GTs and my 57 Speedster and my R and my first Gen GT4 stir my soul. Have over 100,000 miles on one of my CGTs. Original clutch
The S/T speaks to me. Especially the lack of rear steer. As analog as can be these days. When I launched out of the Karussell in my R on the ‘Ring the day after collecting her, my smile didn’t leave for weeks. My GT2RS and 3RS and even my 918 did not evoke that sense of satisfaction. THATS what I want and see the S/T delivering. If it doesn’t, she’s gone
Will folks buy them because they are like Birkin Bags or whatever trendy limited edition Rolex or Patek? Sure. That’s fine by me. There are a lot of us here that are in it for what it does for them. I’m one of those selfish ones
The S/T speaks to me. Especially the lack of rear steer. As analog as can be these days. When I launched out of the Karussell in my R on the ‘Ring the day after collecting her, my smile didn’t leave for weeks. My GT2RS and 3RS and even my 918 did not evoke that sense of satisfaction. THATS what I want and see the S/T delivering. If it doesn’t, she’s gone
Will folks buy them because they are like Birkin Bags or whatever trendy limited edition Rolex or Patek? Sure. That’s fine by me. There are a lot of us here that are in it for what it does for them. I’m one of those selfish ones
My parents immigrated here from Poland when I was 4 and my dad worked hard in construction and then cleaned office buildings with my mom nights. It's because of my parents that I'm in the fortunate position that I am today but it was my college roommate that got me into cars by taking me over Hot Import Nights events.
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08-21-2023, 12:17 AM
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Nope. I Don’t chase trends. Passed on plenty of badge-engineered special editions. Cars need to speak to me (subjectively). The S/T does (very much like my R but not any of the tourings or special editions) I’m fortunate .. I’ve owned maybe 50 Porsches over the years. Bought them in good macroeconomic times and bad. Dad was a janitor and I started a few companies and did well. My Carrera GTs and my 57 Speedster and my R and my first Gen GT4 stir my soul. Have over 100,000 miles on one of my CGTs. Original clutch
The S/T speaks to me. Especially the lack of rear steer. As analog as can be these days. When I launched out of the Karussell in my R on the ‘Ring the day after collecting her, my smile didn’t leave for weeks. My GT2RS and 3RS and even my 918 did not evoke that sense of satisfaction. THATS what I want and see the S/T delivering. If it doesn’t, she’s gone
Will folks buy them because they are like Birkin Bags or whatever trendy limited edition Rolex or Patek? Sure. That’s fine by me. There are a lot of us here that are in it for what it does for them. I’m one of those selfish ones
The S/T speaks to me. Especially the lack of rear steer. As analog as can be these days. When I launched out of the Karussell in my R on the ‘Ring the day after collecting her, my smile didn’t leave for weeks. My GT2RS and 3RS and even my 918 did not evoke that sense of satisfaction. THATS what I want and see the S/T delivering. If it doesn’t, she’s gone
Will folks buy them because they are like Birkin Bags or whatever trendy limited edition Rolex or Patek? Sure. That’s fine by me. There are a lot of us here that are in it for what it does for them. I’m one of those selfish ones
I truly feel Porsche is afraid to build a successor to the 918 for fear of backlash and is caught in the toilet bowl swirl of how many 911 variants can we make and keep relevance and hype.
08-21-2023, 01:04 AM
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08-21-2023, 01:20 AM
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Its not about the direction of the cars you've had, its the direction the new Porsches are going. Its merely that the ST speaks to one central point, marketing. Just take a step back and evaluate all the "special" 911s that have come out for My23/my24. You as a brand loyalist can appreciate innovation and tradition hybrid into one package and the ST just skirts away from both those principles to the direction of the marketing team and I can appreciate that for what it has done for the brand, but not the car.
I truly feel Porsche is afraid to build a successor to the 918 for fear of backlash and is caught in the toilet bowl swirl of how many 911 variants can we make and keep relevance and hype.
I truly feel Porsche is afraid to build a successor to the 918 for fear of backlash and is caught in the toilet bowl swirl of how many 911 variants can we make and keep relevance and hype.
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08-21-2023, 01:24 AM
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08-21-2023, 02:25 AM
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Frank Walliser.
The board backs him 100%.
Whatever he touches turns golden.
He saved the 918 program. Then he led the 919's winning efforts. After that he was head of 911 and 718 and we all knew how good that went. Now he is in charge of all future products' technical development.
Porsche have a really bright star rising up the ranks very very quickly.
I got to know him because of the 918 program, I have his signature on my dash, only car he signed during the production process as that signature is factory clear coated over. He signed many more cars after but all are under the hood.
The board backs him 100%.
Whatever he touches turns golden.
He saved the 918 program. Then he led the 919's winning efforts. After that he was head of 911 and 718 and we all knew how good that went. Now he is in charge of all future products' technical development.
Porsche have a really bright star rising up the ranks very very quickly.
I got to know him because of the 918 program, I have his signature on my dash, only car he signed during the production process as that signature is factory clear coated over. He signed many more cars after but all are under the hood.
I have his signature under the hood of my GT3.
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08-21-2023, 02:46 AM
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You will be able to find me at Rennsport. I will be the drunk, loud, extremely un-PC asian, you probably can hear me a couple miles away. If it's like the last Rennsport, then the 918 will be parked on the same spot on that 'island'. Likely I will be near my car answering questions. If I can get away from the Porsche duties then I can be off somewhere and have drinks off site even. If not then I could be in the Porsche hospitality trying to steal souvenirs, took 2 pillows home off the patio last Rennsport, exquisite square pillows with Porsche 70th on them. I am looking to get the 75th one to complete the collection.
but leave a few pillows for me to swipe
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08-21-2023, 02:48 AM
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08-21-2023, 02:51 AM
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Props to you, and enjoy your cars. Do you still have your GT2RS, GT3RS, and 918?
My parents immigrated here from Poland when I was 4 and my dad worked hard in construction and then cleaned office buildings with my mom nights. It's because of my parents that I'm in the fortunate position that I am today but it was my college roommate that got me into cars by taking me over Hot Import Nights events.
My parents immigrated here from Poland when I was 4 and my dad worked hard in construction and then cleaned office buildings with my mom nights. It's because of my parents that I'm in the fortunate position that I am today but it was my college roommate that got me into cars by taking me over Hot Import Nights events.
Nope. I Don’t chase trends. Passed on plenty of badge-engineered special editions. Cars need to speak to me (subjectively). The S/T does (very much like my R but not any of the tourings or special editions) I’m fortunate .. I’ve owned maybe 50 Porsches over the years. Bought them in good macroeconomic times and bad. Dad was a janitor and I started a few companies and did well. My Carrera GTs and my 57 Speedster and my R and my first Gen GT4 stir my soul. Have over 100,000 miles on one of my CGTs. Original clutch
The S/T speaks to me. Especially the lack of rear steer. As analog as can be these days. When I launched out of the Karussell in my R on the ‘Ring the day after collecting her, my smile didn’t leave for weeks. My GT2RS and 3RS and even my 918 did not evoke that sense of satisfaction. THATS what I want and see the S/T delivering. If it doesn’t, she’s gone
Will folks buy them because they are like Birkin Bags or whatever trendy limited edition Rolex or Patek? Sure. That’s fine by me. There are a lot of us here that are in it for what it does for them. I’m one of those selfish ones
The S/T speaks to me. Especially the lack of rear steer. As analog as can be these days. When I launched out of the Karussell in my R on the ‘Ring the day after collecting her, my smile didn’t leave for weeks. My GT2RS and 3RS and even my 918 did not evoke that sense of satisfaction. THATS what I want and see the S/T delivering. If it doesn’t, she’s gone
Will folks buy them because they are like Birkin Bags or whatever trendy limited edition Rolex or Patek? Sure. That’s fine by me. There are a lot of us here that are in it for what it does for them. I’m one of those selfish ones
me too. drive... not trend...
but you need to get an ST..
we can see who put more miles on it
08-21-2023, 11:20 AM
#2561
Someone in the S/T thread posts about his build and his excitement and you feel inclined to sh*t on his happiness via implying he was duped into buying a Touring with a different badge. You must be fun at parties.
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08-21-2023, 11:20 AM
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Was fortunate to spend time with the Sonderwunsch folks in Monterey to spec my S/T yesterday. They were incredibly graceful and allowed me to bring a friend’s son along too. I had some ideas but WOW - They had some amazing, esoteric design ideas and - after 2 hours - we walked away with a most amazing build. Then offered some tenders too and .. haven’t been this excited since my R - stay tuned …
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08-21-2023, 11:50 AM
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08-22-2023, 03:02 AM
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^ prolly wont make it this year.
but if you come by, we must grab some some lunch
but if you come by, we must grab some some lunch
08-22-2023, 12:41 PM
#2565
I also agree with the above. Sounds like the S/T not flashy enough to drive for whoopsy. But that’s ok, people like different things and we all have choices.
I’ll tell you my story. I got the call to spec an S/T at MSRP and I’m not a VIP owner. The call came from a dealer in Europe where I spend the majority of my time now. I have had over 20 Porsches, all in USA, and zero in Europe. I tracked a lot and had many GT3 and GT3 RS. Well, my life priorities changed, and now I can have only one Porsche. There is no real track where I live. To me, a manual GT3 RS touring that will eat up the mountain roads and Mediterranean sea roads is exactly what I want. A numbered limited edition is a plus. The price sucks, but hey, nothing is cheap nowadays and I need to stop living in the past. It’s a more grown up car for me made by the Porsche GT department.
A couple spec questions…. Can you get PORSCHE decal without ordering the Heritage package? On USA configurator you cannot and some configurators in europe allow you to and others do not alllow. I like the heritage interior, but it will not go with my PTS color.
Also, in europe you can get “privacy glass” which essentially tints the rear side window and rear glass. Do they still keep the lightweight glass if ticking this open on?
Thank you.
I’ll tell you my story. I got the call to spec an S/T at MSRP and I’m not a VIP owner. The call came from a dealer in Europe where I spend the majority of my time now. I have had over 20 Porsches, all in USA, and zero in Europe. I tracked a lot and had many GT3 and GT3 RS. Well, my life priorities changed, and now I can have only one Porsche. There is no real track where I live. To me, a manual GT3 RS touring that will eat up the mountain roads and Mediterranean sea roads is exactly what I want. A numbered limited edition is a plus. The price sucks, but hey, nothing is cheap nowadays and I need to stop living in the past. It’s a more grown up car for me made by the Porsche GT department.
A couple spec questions…. Can you get PORSCHE decal without ordering the Heritage package? On USA configurator you cannot and some configurators in europe allow you to and others do not alllow. I like the heritage interior, but it will not go with my PTS color.
Also, in europe you can get “privacy glass” which essentially tints the rear side window and rear glass. Do they still keep the lightweight glass if ticking this open on?
Thank you.