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Old 01-11-2024, 03:33 PM
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Old 01-11-2024, 03:48 PM
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Manheim pricing:

2022 GT3 - current MMR $229k (last year average was $224k)

'23 not enough sales volume yet, but here are the prices so far:

9/6/23 $251,000
6/13/23 $249,999
6/5/23 $254,065
2/16/23 $268,000
2/15/23 $268,000

I do not see the demand/market for GT3 "falling off a cliff". In fact, the wholesale value has actually climbed from 12 months ago.

Not that wholesale pricing is everything on a car like this, but the lowest priced 992 GT3 listed right now (excluding accidents, clean titles/carfax only) is a 2022 with 16k miles for $237,000. 6,000 mile examples are averaging well over the $265k mark...wholesale.

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Old 01-11-2024, 04:07 PM
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I've been happily adding lots of miles and track days

The supply of GT3's and 992's is wild right now, Porsche is printing money

GT3 Market for sale #'s:
992.1 196
991.2 82
991.1 55
997.2 7
997.1 15
996.2 7

911 Secondary Market:
992.1 1,506 (NOT including new)
991.2 769
991.1 708
997.2 207
997.1 439
996.2 232
Old 01-11-2024, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
I've been happily adding lots of miles and track days

The supply of GT3's and 992's is wild right now, Porsche is printing money

GT3 Market for sale #'s:
992.1 196
991.2 82
991.1 55
997.2 7
997.1 15
996.2 7

911 Secondary Market:
992.1 1,506 (NOT including new)
991.2 769
991.1 708
997.2 207
997.1 439
996.2 232
what does the number of cars for sale have anything to do with market prices?
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196....is a lot of 992 GT3s...
Old 01-11-2024, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
what does the number of cars for sale have anything to do with market prices?
....supply? I mean, that's half of the equation for pricing.
Old 01-11-2024, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jjw285
....supply? I mean, that's half of the equation for pricing.
exactly, half the equating means nothing without the other half
Old 01-11-2024, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jjw285
Manheim pricing:

2022 GT3 - current MMR $229k (last year average was $224k)

'23 not enough sales volume yet, but here are the prices so far:

9/6/23 $251,000
6/13/23 $249,999
6/5/23 $254,065
2/16/23 $268,000
2/15/23 $268,000

I do not see the demand/market for GT3 "falling off a cliff". In fact, the wholesale value has actually climbed from 12 months ago.

Not that wholesale pricing is everything on a car like this, but the lowest priced 992 GT3 listed right now (excluding accidents, clean titles/carfax only) is a 2022 with 16k miles for $237,000. 6,000 mile examples are averaging well over the $265k mark...wholesale.
LOL at trying to suggest prices this year are more than last.

992 GT3 bat sales data
Q4 2022 BAT: 8 sales at 285.1k average (251 low/312 high)
touring: 4 sales at 299.5k avg.
winged: 4 sales at 270.75k avg.

Q4 2023 BAT: 15 sales at 251.6k average (212 low/292 high) -33.5k yoy
touring: 8 sales at 263.1k avg. -36.4 yoy
winged: 7 sales at 238.4k avg. -32.3 yoy

That data is fairly consistent however you look at it fore market dropping considerably, matches with how much I have seen prices drop on autotrader.....so GT3's lost almost 3k a month last 12 months using the most transparent data of actual sales....that depreciation is OUCH

at this rate the people who paid 300k 12-18 months ago will sell for 200 after 3 years of ownership. yikes for the crowd that cared about resale. I myself buy cars expecting half value after 3 years.

Are 992 GT3's investments still ***** and pts, value clowns

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Old 01-11-2024, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
LOL at trying to suggest prices this year are more than last.

992 GT3 bat sales data
Q4 2022 BAT: 8 sales at 285.1k average (251 low/312 high)
touring: 4 sales at 299.5k avg.
winged: 4 sales at 270.75k avg.

Q4 2023 BAT: 15 sales at 251.6k average (212 low/292 high) -33.5k yoy
touring: 8 sales at 263.1k avg. -36.4 yoy
winged: 7 sales at 238.4k avg. -32.3 yoy

That data is fairly consistent however you look at it fore market dropping considerably, matches with how much I have seen prices drop on autotrader.....so GT3's lost almost 3k a month last 12 months using the most transparent data of actual sales....that depreciation is OUCH

at this rate the people who paid 300k 12-18 months ago will sell for 200 after 3 years of ownership. yikes for the crowd that cared about resale. I myself buy cars expecting half value after 3 years.

Are 992 GT3's investments still ***** and pts, value clowns
I get my cars for MSRP and either keep them forever or they go back to the dealer for MSRP. I track all my cars and have 9k miles on my Touring. IDGAF about values you moron.
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Old 01-11-2024, 05:52 PM
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Old 01-11-2024, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
I get my cars for MSRP and either keep them forever or they go back to the dealer for MSRP. I track all my cars and have 9k miles on my Touring. IDGAF about values you moron.
And he continues to assume everyone paid $100k over and did so under the belief their purchase was an "investment". Perhaps if he actually knew someone IRL with a GT3 he'd realize those people are few and far between. But hey he's committed to his talking points. Year after year after year.
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Old 01-11-2024, 06:05 PM
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Guys, get some perspective and chill out. Few things could be less important than the price trends of Porsche GT cars. If that's one of your real concerns, you don't realize how lucky you are.
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Old 01-11-2024, 06:44 PM
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Yeah, who cares what the values of the cars are....drive them, look at them, enjoy them.
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Old 01-11-2024, 08:10 PM
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I will say that this thread sees an uptick in activity and excitement when @welikethetrack makes his aimless posts. Can't knock him there.
Old 01-11-2024, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rusmani
I will say that this thread sees an uptick in activity and excitement when @welikethetrack makes his aimless posts. Can't knock him there.
Someone has to spice up the caldron

Is it just me or does it seem like way less people are interested and/or buying the gt3rs this time around? 991.1 and 991.2 seemed to have unlimited demand and I don't really even know 1 person (personally) buying this one and I myself got the last one. I don't know if it's just the crazy ADM's pricing everyone out or the no frunk or people wanting regular GT3 more or what...

I paid an ADM of 25k on the last gt3rs, so I am victim (sucker) of ADM as well LOL my GT4 I paid 7500 too, at least I custom ordered both. So I am just a poor peasant that has to get the cars the old fashioned way, on the streets. Don't have the luxury connect like PTS and USCtrojan



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