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then, as a general statement of yours, I agree. However, I must ask as you seem extremely knowledgable and invested in value concerns. Where do you pull high $200s for a 4k car. Can you point to any relevant sale in the past month that leads you to this number? I am certain the wizard of willlovethetrack (or whatever that genius calls himself) is on nerve's edge with your assertion.
he just posts to argue to have something to do. pretty clear at this point
I find porsche dealers are usually reasonably fair on trade in values because they can sell cars at appreciably more than we can as private sellers and that has value in that it gives you another brownie point on an immediate allocation or future allocations. Dealers likely make often more money on used cars they take in trade. Porsche dealers want to have nice condition 911’s for example on their showroom floor.
We all watch BAT auctions but the vast majority of say GT3 transactions are done by dealers.
also the 2022 GT3’s have lost a significant amount of their warranty.
The other market is for new GT3 allocations - which command a premium still today. I paid $40,000 over msrp for my 2024 allocation now in my garage.And that was okay with me as I received a brand new gT3 delivered at PECLA to my specifications and had it delivered at PECLA. GT3 buyers should pay a much higher premium for an allocation than they would a car on BAT
It also helps when you get a sales tax trade in credit by trading cars back to a dealer when buying a new one, at that point it's almost a wash trading in the car versus selling it via private party.
As these cars get more expensive and the owners don't keep them long I do not see how anyone affords a expensive car in CA. all in the ST is going to cost around $325, car, $15k watch, $35 tax and thats before someone tries to sell one in a year or so for a COST total of $374. And I have already seen $100-200 ADM
As these cars get more expensive and the owners don't keep them long I do not see how anyone affords a expensive car in CA. all in the ST is going to cost around $325, car, $15k watch, $35 tax and thats before someone tries to sell one in a year or so for a COST total of $374. And I have already seen $100-200 ADM
With an average of one S/T per dealership, there will be about 30-40 S/Ts in California. In 2019, there were over a million millionaires in California and that number will be much higher now, Between Hollywood and Silicon Valley, plus all the other industry, 40 bespoke cars in the 300-500K range is like one month of sales at any single random Ferrari dealership. Not even a drop of water in the ocean.
With an average of one S/T per dealership, there will be about 30-40 S/Ts in California. In 2019, there were over a million millionaires in California and that number will be much higher now, Between Hollywood and Silicon Valley, plus all the other industry, 40 bespoke cars in the 300-500K range is like one month of sales at any single random Ferrari dealership. Not even a drop of water in the ocean.
Millionaire doesn't mean what it used when we were all young. How many households worth $5+ million in California? That would be a more useful stat to gauge potential buyers of higher-end Porsches.
more and more annoying as time goes on it seems. And I was a pure MSRP only guy his posts are just there to go against whatever anyone is thinking at that moment in time.
more and more annoying as time goes on it seems. And I was a pure MSRP only guy his posts are just there to go against whatever anyone is thinking at that moment in time.
I find porsche dealers are usually reasonably fair on trade in values because they can sell cars at appreciably more than we can as private sellers and that has value in that it gives you another brownie point on an immediate allocation or future allocations. Dealers likely make often more money on used cars they take in trade. Porsche dealers want to have nice condition 911’s for example on their showroom floor.
We all watch BAT auctions but the vast majority of say GT3 transactions are done by dealers.
also the 2022 GT3’s have lost a significant amount of their warranty.
The other market is for new GT3 allocations - which command a premium still today. I paid $40,000 over msrp for my 2024 allocation now in my garage.And that was okay with me as I received a brand new gT3 delivered at PECLA to my specifications and had it delivered at PECLA. GT3 buyers should pay a much higher premium for an allocation than they would a car on BAT
generally I agree selling a Porsche to a Porsche dealer will usually net a little more, as is the case for any marquee.
in my case though, although I’m still waiting on 1 Porsche dealer’s appraisal, two independent dealers have gotten to $240k, or about $40k over MSRP.
What’s the general market for a private seller wing 2023 PTS, 6 speed, LWBS with 4K miles? $203k MSRP. I might unload mine to get into something a little different.
Only 4,000 miles?
How long have you owned this car for?
12-10-2023, 08:56 AM
