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#7111
the stats go like this. I have owned nine Porsches. Five of which have been GT Porsches including a GT2RS and two recent GT3's. Yes I have paid ADM on several of these cars. Maybe total $1.5 mil. Hold on average 3 to 5 years. Total cumulative depreciation to date less than $110k or approximately 7%.
In my mind spending $100 +/- k to own nine Porsches and drive lots of miles over 18 years, Best bargain ever! you guys have no idea how well Porsches compare to bad investments, or loose women, or big life mistakes! get a grip for goodness sakes....
In my mind spending $100 +/- k to own nine Porsches and drive lots of miles over 18 years, Best bargain ever! you guys have no idea how well Porsches compare to bad investments, or loose women, or big life mistakes! get a grip for goodness sakes....
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It's painful to see good folks engaging in such antiseptically hackneyed economic discussions about a Porsche purchase.
I feel sorry for such people. They just don’t get it, and more depressingly likely never will.
It is a 911 GT car. There is no logic, certainly not economic ones. Buy one if you have the means to do so and never look back.
Or just buy bank CD at ~5.5% and get off this board.
I feel sorry for such people. They just don’t get it, and more depressingly likely never will.
It is a 911 GT car. There is no logic, certainly not economic ones. Buy one if you have the means to do so and never look back.
Or just buy bank CD at ~5.5% and get off this board.
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There’s nothing wrong with discussing money aspects in connection with Porsches.
Obviously, money matters - that’s why the cars have the prices they do, rather than prices 50% or 100% more.
It’s not a thing where either you want a car and don’t care about the price vs you shouldn’t buy a car if you care about the price. You can buy a car you want AND care about the price, depreciation, etc.
Obviously, money matters - that’s why the cars have the prices they do, rather than prices 50% or 100% more.
It’s not a thing where either you want a car and don’t care about the price vs you shouldn’t buy a car if you care about the price. You can buy a car you want AND care about the price, depreciation, etc.
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Got some interesting data from my dealer a few days ago.
They're a mid sized MSRP dealer, and there are about 10 non-VIP customers vying to get the special cars like GT cars. Nobody gets everything they want, the dealer tries to spread the love and keep everyone reasonably happy.
There's a gentlemen's agreement that you won't flip the cars. If you want to sell it, you sell it back to the dealer at MSRP, or lower if the market value is lower. So if the car is worth a lot more than MSRP, it would make sense to put miles on the car and bring the value down to MSRP before you contemplate a trade in.
Out of all of their customers, only repeat customers whose driving they trust are allowed to take any of the cars for a test drive without a SA in the car. Only about 7 customers meet those criteria. Most of the people who test drive the cars aren't particularly good drivers, and many of them are nervous when they test drive the cars, so the SA usually drives the car first.
I suspect that the RL crowd is not representative of the people who walk in the door at Porsche dealerships.
They're a mid sized MSRP dealer, and there are about 10 non-VIP customers vying to get the special cars like GT cars. Nobody gets everything they want, the dealer tries to spread the love and keep everyone reasonably happy.
There's a gentlemen's agreement that you won't flip the cars. If you want to sell it, you sell it back to the dealer at MSRP, or lower if the market value is lower. So if the car is worth a lot more than MSRP, it would make sense to put miles on the car and bring the value down to MSRP before you contemplate a trade in.
Out of all of their customers, only repeat customers whose driving they trust are allowed to take any of the cars for a test drive without a SA in the car. Only about 7 customers meet those criteria. Most of the people who test drive the cars aren't particularly good drivers, and many of them are nervous when they test drive the cars, so the SA usually drives the car first.
I suspect that the RL crowd is not representative of the people who walk in the door at Porsche dealerships.
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#7116
Got some interesting data from my dealer a few days ago.
They're a mid sized MSRP dealer, and there are about 10 non-VIP customers vying to get the special cars like GT cars. Nobody gets everything they want, the dealer tries to spread the love and keep everyone reasonably happy.
There's a gentlemen's agreement that you won't flip the cars. If you want to sell it, you sell it back to the dealer at MSRP, or lower if the market value is lower. So if the car is worth a lot more than MSRP, it would make sense to put miles on the car and bring the value down to MSRP before you contemplate a trade in.
Out of all of their customers, only repeat customers whose driving they trust are allowed to take any of the cars for a test drive without a SA in the car. Only about 7 customers meet those criteria. Most of the people who test drive the cars aren't particularly good drivers, and many of them are nervous when they test drive the cars, so the SA usually drives the car first.
I suspect that the RL crowd is not representative of the people who walk in the door at Porsche dealerships.
They're a mid sized MSRP dealer, and there are about 10 non-VIP customers vying to get the special cars like GT cars. Nobody gets everything they want, the dealer tries to spread the love and keep everyone reasonably happy.
There's a gentlemen's agreement that you won't flip the cars. If you want to sell it, you sell it back to the dealer at MSRP, or lower if the market value is lower. So if the car is worth a lot more than MSRP, it would make sense to put miles on the car and bring the value down to MSRP before you contemplate a trade in.
Out of all of their customers, only repeat customers whose driving they trust are allowed to take any of the cars for a test drive without a SA in the car. Only about 7 customers meet those criteria. Most of the people who test drive the cars aren't particularly good drivers, and many of them are nervous when they test drive the cars, so the SA usually drives the car first.
I suspect that the RL crowd is not representative of the people who walk in the door at Porsche dealerships.
#7117
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Hahahahahahahaha!
This thread is a joke.
This thread is a joke.
Last edited by Diablo Dude; 10-02-2023 at 10:45 PM.
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Wonder what the hammer price will be for this.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-911-gt3-rs-2/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-911-gt3-rs-2/
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Wonder what the hammer price will be for this.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-911-gt3-rs-2/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-911-gt3-rs-2/
They are not happy with this listing and told the client to take it down, or else.
I guess he doesnt care.
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Probably 400kish
#7121
Porsche prices go up, they go down. It's the free market, it will find its level.
#7122
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Wonder what the hammer price will be for this.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-911-gt3-rs-2/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-911-gt3-rs-2/
Bid just jumped from $421,000 to $425,000
#7123
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Hammered at $472,000 after going up in $1,000 increments for 30 minutes.
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People follow auctions of cars they're not bidding on? I don't even know what "hammered" means.
#7125
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I'm shocked that you are unaware of this. Kind of like how you were unaware of how many miles the 'break-in" was for the GT3 given how much time you spend in this forum.
I was watching the auction because the car came out of my dealership and I'm aware that the dealer is not happy.
But flippers gonna flip!
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