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All in good fun. Happy driving, even if you all have a base Macan. As an aside it is fun with the banter. It’s fun getting you experts all riled up.
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ADM's on GT3/GT3T/3RS/GT4/4RS/Spyder are increasing from what I am seeing. Just to get a used 992 GT3 we have to pay $40-50k over.
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They dont want to accept reality.
It's also interesting to note that Porsche just raiseed the price of a GT3 by $13,000 and all of the ADM bashers have disappeared.
Crickets.
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I've seen it all. MSRP, $20-150k over, Flippers, etc. Just giving my feedback. Naturally people paying all the overages usually don't visit the forums, they just want a car. I think the car that has leveled the most though is a Turbo S. Targa still strong in any variant.
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We are seeing people who live <45 minutes away are going to need to be in 2-3 days per week. At 3 they consider you - an in office person vs remote.
As far as ADM's - they aint going away. There was one chart on this thread that highlighted the issue succinctly. The # of people that make a lot of money has gone up significantly since 2001 as a % of the total population. So unless there is a systemic global crisis / contagion / black swan event (2023 is not 2008 IMHO) there are just too many rich / wealthy people that want GT3's. A 10-20% drop in an elevated stock market is irrelevant to these people. Even though I don't have one (a GT3) - I get it re the desirability. Quite honestly what are you going to do with 800HP TT and Electric cars. At some point the power is pointless. I have 765HP in my TT - My TT almost now has too much power and even though i love it and I last minute changed to get one vs a GT3 - I would like to add a GT3. I just struggle with where do i put it physically. I did love my Perf although I am not into attention and such a low car for LA. There is something about an NA car. For the fun factor - that is.
OT - I did add a BMW iX yesterday as we want a Electric SUV - its actually pretty dang good for a luxury SUV and cruiser. 500HP+ and really quick off the line, 315 miles of range etc. But i immediately gave it to my wife.
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The # of people that make a lot of money has gone up significantly since 2001 as a % of the total population. So unless there is a systemic global crisis / contagion / black swan event (2023 is not 2008 IMHO) there are just too many rich / wealthy people that want GT3's. A 10-20% drop in an elevated stock market is irrelevant to these people.
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I work in the tech world (SaaS Business Software Company) - although I have stayed in So Cal. Google is building out the Westside Pavilion (an ex-mall) that they're converting to 600K+ square feet of office space ~1 mile from my office. So if they ever finish that project - they better have a policy for people to go in else they'll look like idiots.
Also that may help the value of my primary house.
We are seeing people who live <45 minutes away are going to need to be in 2-3 days per week. At 3 they consider you - an in office person vs remote.
As far as ADM's - they aint going away. There was one chart on this thread that highlighted the issue succinctly. The # of people that make a lot of money has gone up significantly since 2001 as a % of the total population. So unless there is a systemic global crisis / contagion / black swan event (2023 is not 2008 IMHO) there are just too many rich / wealthy people that want GT3's. A 10-20% drop in an elevated stock market is irrelevant to these people. Even though I don't have one (a GT3) - I get it re the desirability. Quite honestly what are you going to do with 800HP TT and Electric cars. At some point the power is pointless. I have 765HP in my TT - My TT almost now has too much power and even though i love it and I last minute changed to get one vs a GT3 - I would like to add a GT3. I just struggle with where do i put it physically. I did love my Perf although I am not into attention and such a low car for LA. There is something about an NA car. For the fun factor - that is.
OT - I did add a BMW iX yesterday as we want a Electric SUV - its actually pretty dang good for a luxury SUV and cruiser. 500HP+ and really quick off the line, 315 miles of range etc. But i immediately gave it to my wife.
I'm keeping my Land Rover Defender.
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We are seeing people who live <45 minutes away are going to need to be in 2-3 days per week. At 3 they consider you - an in office person vs remote.
As far as ADM's - they aint going away. There was one chart on this thread that highlighted the issue succinctly. The # of people that make a lot of money has gone up significantly since 2001 as a % of the total population. So unless there is a systemic global crisis / contagion / black swan event (2023 is not 2008 IMHO) there are just too many rich / wealthy people that want GT3's. A 10-20% drop in an elevated stock market is irrelevant to these people. Even though I don't have one (a GT3) - I get it re the desirability. Quite honestly what are you going to do with 800HP TT and Electric cars. At some point the power is pointless. I have 765HP in my TT - My TT almost now has too much power and even though i love it and I last minute changed to get one vs a GT3 - I would like to add a GT3. I just struggle with where do i put it physically. I did love my Perf although I am not into attention and such a low car for LA. There is something about an NA car. For the fun factor - that is.
OT - I did add a BMW iX yesterday as we want a Electric SUV - its actually pretty dang good for a luxury SUV and cruiser. 500HP+ and really quick off the line, 315 miles of range etc. But i immediately gave it to my wife.
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