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Old 03-29-2023 | 10:29 PM
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Glad to see GT3 production continue into 24.
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Old 03-29-2023 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
There were only about 2900 992 GT3's made for the U.S. market. People on this thread act as though Porsche built 29,000 for the U.S.

ADM's have continued to be robust.
But many in this thread are in massive denial. There's an old saying in the stock market ... "Trade what you SEE, not what you HOPE to see."

There are over 8,000 engineers in the engineering department at GOOGLE. Ever been in their parking lot on a Friday?

It will make your eyes water.
Agree… and this is JUST in the US of A.
Gap between haves and haves not has just been getting wider and wider, much more rapidly in fact than production capacities of luxury goods retailers.
Why do you think it has been nearly impossible to buy a Rolex in the last three years and they are now building additional production facilities?
Even if things are a bit iffy at the moment in China, that market alone is so massive that the current production of P car is a fraction of what the demand is. This is why they are confident that they can secure their 20% margin on their various models.
Unfortunately, I do not see the current situation to massively improve anytime soon… but what do I know!?
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Old 03-29-2023 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
I think 991.2 is going to be very desirable all in forms, especially GTS, TT, TTS, GT3, GT3 RS, GT2 RS. These cars feel smaller and are more analog than the 992 cars.
…and don’t forget the T either!!
Old 03-30-2023 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Hai Blau GTS
New configurator for the GT3... and price increase of 16K. Good golly miss molly.
A question now is: does the TOTAL price to the dealer increase, i.e. does the ADM stay the same, or go down? My bet near term is ADM stays similar, until people start pushing back on it.
Old 03-30-2023 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
For all you know that "sucker" is having the time of his life driving his dream GT3 you wish you had. $100k to him could be toilet paper.

Personally I would never pay that type of ADM and fortunately I'll never have to....but I don't get the attitude in here towards those that do when you know nothing of their circumstances
Oh Lord. Yes, he was suckered. Straight up. Gosh I hope he/she is enjoying it. May as well be TP becuase he/she wiped their proverbial **** with that markup. Congratulations to the lucky man/woman!

If a $100k markup on a $200k car sounds acceptable, by all means. <message shortened to stay out of Rennlist jail>

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Old 03-30-2023 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Wasnt the base price of a TTS in 2023 roughly $47,000 higher than a GT3?

Not everyone has been paying $100,000 ADM's.

Far from it in my case.
Yes, my point is that the total price was similar- obviously the MSRP of GT3 is lower. Hence less ADM on TTS. More reasonable additions.
However getting GT3 allocations are difficult unless you are (1) extremely lucky, (2) have a relative at the dealer, or (3) buy multiple cars from the same dealer in a short amount of time. Who knows?
Doesn't really matter to me anymore, but I've sure got the popcorn out.
Old 03-30-2023 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
For all you know that "sucker" is having the time of his life driving his dream GT3 you wish you had. $100k to him could be toilet paper.

Personally I would never pay that type of ADM and fortunately I'll never have to....but I don't get the attitude in here towards those that do when you know nothing of their circumstances
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Oh Lord. Yes, he was suckered. Straight up. Gosh I hope he/she is enjoying it. May as well be TP becuase he/she wiped their proverbial **** with that markup. Congratulations to the lucky man/woman!

If a $100k markup on a $200k car sounds acceptable, by all means. <message shortened to stay out of Rennlist jail>
I would rather be that "sucker" who paid an ADM than be that person on RL judging how others spend their own money.
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Old 03-30-2023 | 07:02 AM
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What are you folks seeing the ADM in the current market for a non-PTS GT3T?
Old 03-30-2023 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chance6
Oh Lord. Yes, he was suckered. Straight up. Gosh I hope he/she is enjoying it. May as well be TP becuase he/she wiped their proverbial **** with that markup. Congratulations to the lucky man/woman!

If a $100k markup on a $200k car sounds acceptable, by all means. <message shortened to stay out of Rennlist jail>
Pure bitterness that he/she is driving the car you wanted but couldn't get.
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Old 03-30-2023 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chance6
Who knows?
Doesn't really matter to me anymore, but I've sure got the popcorn out.
Seems like the ADM does matter to you because you keep talking about it.
You actually sound bitter.

The TTS isnt a GT3 and the GT3 isnt a TTS. It's "apples" and "oranges" so I dont understand your comparison in the first place.
Old 03-30-2023 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I would rather be that "sucker" who paid an ADM than be that person on RL judging how others spend their own money.
Again you misunderstand. It’s more the dealer price than the person who paid it. People can do as they wish.

Old 03-30-2023 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Seems like the ADM does matter to you because you keep talking about it.
You actually sound bitter.

The TTS isnt a GT3 and the GT3 isnt a TTS. It's "apples" and "oranges" so I dont understand your comparison in the first place.
Good Lord. I’m not bitter at all. Plenty of anger and humblebrags on the GT3 board, I’m still perplexed why that is?

I’m also not angry, holy cow guys take a step back.

So I’m the only person talking about ADMs huh? Really? Get a grip!

There’s an entire thread on the GT3 board to discuss ADMs. In fact, you’re on it!!
Old 03-30-2023 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
Pure bitterness that he/she is driving the car you wanted but couldn't get.
Wow, what an insult. Welcome to the GT3 board. What nice owners we have around here. (Eye roll)

Actually most of the owners are a joy. But a small contingent are not. Somehow, I’ll scrape by.

Yes, my tears are overflowing, daily. The GT3 was my ultimate dream. Your comment really hit home.

Btw- You’re on the ADM thread, genius.
Old 03-30-2023 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chance6
Hell yes I gripe about ADM because I witnessed some sucker get suckered by paying a $100k markup on a car with 346 ft-lb.
My 992 TTS wasn’t exactly cheap! So in my case I moved on to a TTS. Similar price, and I mean really similar. Easier to get an allocation. It’s that simple.
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Good Lord. I’m not bitter at all. Plenty of anger and humblebrags on the GT3 board, I’m still perplexed why that is?
I guess I could be just as perplexed as why someone would compare a TTS to a GT3.
Two different cars.

Old 03-30-2023 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by chance6
Btw- You’re on the ADM thread, genius.
Correct, where current ADMs are discussed for those looking for a GT3 to see where the market is. I didn't know it was an ADM bashing thread where we are supposed to sh*t on people that pay them.
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