Cool story bro.

 

I see you finally came around. You could have made this statement 3 months ago and de-escalated the whole thing but then we would not have enjoyed all the colorful banter
As for the 500k Sport Classic, people here are viewing this purchase in a rational way which it isn't. It is an emotional decision and if you have 8 or 9 figure plus portfolio what do you care for 250k ADM.
Same way someone driving a 20k KIA would look at a 200k Porsche as obscene since in their mind, the KIA gets them from point A to B same way a 200k Porsche does. IT is all about perspective.

 

Yeah if you can drop a 250k ADM on top of a 250k car, you probably have more money and brains than most of us in here. I'm sure that guy isn't wasting his time on rennlist, especially this thread lol.

 

I think it can be challenging to see things from someone else's perspective, especially the perspectives of those who have a lot less or a lot more money than we do. I saw a Sport Classic at my dealer yesterday (sold to VIP at MSRP). It's a nice car with the turbo power, RWD, manual, and aesthetic treatments, and I can almost see myself buying one at MSRP if I was a collector. I can't see myself buying one with a large ADM, but maybe that's mostly because I'm not rich enough (I can 'afford' it, but would rather put the money to other uses).

My perspective with Porsches is strongly shaped by my experience with driving GT cars on the track, resulting in my not enjoying driving them on the road because, even when I'm going much too fast to be the safe on the road, the cars still feel very underutilized compared to driving them near their limits. But I suppose that if I didn't have that track experience, I might enjoy driving them more on the road at sane speeds. I got a 991 cab precisely because, although the car be bonkers fast on the road, I can still enjoy the car at lower speeds by putting the top down and taking in the sights, sounds, and smells of the scenery. Similarly, my manual 997 is my favorite road car because I find it enjoyable at all speeds, even when I'm stuck behind slow cars.

 

Ummm people with F U money are not slumming it with basically a manual 911 turbo and if they had that kind of money they would have been a VIP whale with a local dealership and would have gotten the car at MSRP. So yeah that argument doesn't really hold up to well and how well did paying a big ADM work out for the folks who bought a Speedster to be the first to have the car? Yeah, not so well. But hey, limited edition Porsches are the key to retiring early right?

 

As if Redwood City cares about VIP "whales" with Google in their backyard.
There's no such thing at that dealership.
lol

 

Maybe they don't have a history with Porsche or are buying for their wife/kid/whoever.

Also, if you are worth millions of dollars, I doubt you give a rats *** about some 100-200k ADM you paid for a speedster, sport classic, etc.

And as I said earlier, at that level of financial success, you probably aren't flirting with peasants on Rennlist.

 

They have no history with Porsche and all of a sudden they want to by a limited Porsche turbo car? Come on, let's be real here. The buyer is a trust fund baby who never earned their money or someone who made fast money who doesn't value money. There are plenty of super wealthy folks who are on Rennlist. The car sold for that price because of 1) speculation and/or 2) impatience.

 

You know the buyer?

 

lol. Dude calm your ****. You’re speculating about how many millionaires are out there. You don’t have a clue.
just because someone isn’t a “Porsche vip” doesn’t mean they don’t have the means or were never interested in Porsches. For reference my dealer turned down 600k back in June! They got 1 sport classic. 5 total (4 vip’s) and 1 for the dealer. So no the person paying that isn’t speculating or impatient. There isn’t enough. Supply and demand.

think CJ mentioned that there were 1000+ porsche collectors

 

This is simply the free market at work.

 

I don't think that's true. I suspect that many or most of us in this thread are worth millions of dollars, and many of those people will balk at paying an ADM of tens of thousands of dollars. Now if you're talking net worth in the tens of millions, that's a different story.

 

I believe most guys here make 7 figure and have 8 figure NW. Still, you dont get there by wasting money on ADM unless you are born rich.

 

Doubt it. Maybe the 8 figure NW, but not the former.

 

Yes, I would guess the median is high 6 figure income and mid 7 figure NW. I think that most of the real ballers aren't spending time on RL. Could do an anonymous poll, might be interesting to find out.