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#4681
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Carlo_Carrera (01-30-2023)
#4682
The recent posts here plus seeing multiple GT cars on the floor at several dealers makes me wonder if people are backing out of their allocations and the dealers are then taking on more inventory than they expected.
Also very interesting the vast difference most people are willing to pay for an allocation (so they can spec) rather than buy off the floor. And I say that because that's essentially what the used market is which makes me wonder how quickly we'll get to that below MSRP point that always happens eventually.
Also very interesting the vast difference most people are willing to pay for an allocation (so they can spec) rather than buy off the floor. And I say that because that's essentially what the used market is which makes me wonder how quickly we'll get to that below MSRP point that always happens eventually.
#4684
I saw all of those within the last 2-3 weeks - no idea if they are still there or what ADM they are asking on them.
#4685
I haven’t really checked if they are online or not since I have one in production already. But I can tell you that Santa Clarita had 3 992 GT3s, and a couple 991.2s and Beverly Hills had 2 992 GT3s sitting.
I saw all of those within the last 2-3 weeks - no idea if they are still there or what ADM they are asking on them.
I saw all of those within the last 2-3 weeks - no idea if they are still there or what ADM they are asking on them.
Last edited by WCGhost; 01-31-2023 at 01:29 AM.
#4686
Considering the climate right now that's not too bad for a NEW GT3, but Sofas and PDK is a no for me.
#4687
#4688
FYI this one has been sold: https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/com...p_and_it_sold/
#4689
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#4690
People with more brains than money don't buy that kind of car at that kind of price because they are smarter than that. Buyer is very likely an impatient, new money guy or trust fund baby.
#4691
I’d 100% pay $25k for the allocation I wanted when I first wanted it. My time is worth more than waiting for the right spec used car to come up for auction years later. No reason someone 10x richer couldn’t pay 10x more. Does $250k adm seem stupid to me ? Sure. But I’m not 10x richer
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#4692
I can imagine the guy on the street saying "why do people go to lunch at noon? If they went to lunch at 2pm, there are shorter lines and there is a 2-4pm discount!"
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#4693
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I confess that I was hardheaded in understanding that other people who buy Porsches are not me, and therefore many of them have different motivations to buy the cars and different circumstances financially and otherwise. The ADM which is crazy for one person can be easily rationalized for another person.
I personally look more at the net price of the car more than the ADM. For a car that I’m going to routinely beat up on the track and possibly crash, I personally would like to keep the price under $200k, and I can do that with an MSRP GT3, but not if the ADM is $20k+. But my use case is the more the exception than the norm, and I can see that someone buying the car for the road and putting limited miles on it could have a different financial and value analysis.
Bottom line is that the market is made up of all sorts of buyers, and our collective decisions set the prices. It is what it is. No point crying about it if you don’t like the price, just wait or buy something else or don’t buy anything.
I personally look more at the net price of the car more than the ADM. For a car that I’m going to routinely beat up on the track and possibly crash, I personally would like to keep the price under $200k, and I can do that with an MSRP GT3, but not if the ADM is $20k+. But my use case is the more the exception than the norm, and I can see that someone buying the car for the road and putting limited miles on it could have a different financial and value analysis.
Bottom line is that the market is made up of all sorts of buyers, and our collective decisions set the prices. It is what it is. No point crying about it if you don’t like the price, just wait or buy something else or don’t buy anything.
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#4695
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His account has been hacked. Also, he and his wife have recently been doing some watch shopping and have been forced to contemplate why someone would spend a lot of money on a mechanical watch that's much less functional and accurate than a digital watch (his wife bought a diamond-encrusted Cartier).
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