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I don't see a crash either, I was hoping for a gradual decline. I have set an ADM target in mind, which is currently ~50% decline from current ADM. I am flexible on time and can wait 12 months, so if there is a 50% decline in ADM I will look to purchase then. I don't think MSRP will be possible on a GT3 with delivery miles, maybe one with a ton of miles racked up at some point, which I am not interested in.
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I don't see a crash either, I was hoping for a gradual decline. I have set an ADM target in mind, which is currently ~50% decline from current ADM. I am flexible on time and can wait 12 months, so if there is a 50% decline in ADM I will look to purchase then. I don't think MSRP will be possible on a GT3 with delivery miles, maybe one with a ton of miles racked up at some point, which I am not interested in.
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There are currently 435 991 and 992 GT cars listed for sale on cars.com. Many of them have had large drops in asking prices. That’s a lot of cars for sale, and I think it suggests that prices will continue to drop as dealers feel pressure to move them.
I’m at the track this weekend and my 991.1 GT3 has really been transformed into a better car by putting Goodyear Supercar 3 tires on it (cheaper and better than Cup 2, and they last longer). You guys who are pining for a 992 GT car should consider grabbing a 991 GT car and putting these tires on it. We’re thinking of buying a second 991.1 GT3 CPO for my wife.
I’m at the track this weekend and my 991.1 GT3 has really been transformed into a better car by putting Goodyear Supercar 3 tires on it (cheaper and better than Cup 2, and they last longer). You guys who are pining for a 992 GT car should consider grabbing a 991 GT car and putting these tires on it. We’re thinking of buying a second 991.1 GT3 CPO for my wife.
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Just trying to understand what you are "scared" of. So, I agree with you that MSRP or 10% above MSRP isnt coming for a "long" time on the GT3. So, if you feel that $30K over is a number you are willing to pay, and lets assume you could get one now for $60K over, are you scared of the $30K gap if it means you could have the car today and not wait what you think is 1 year (which could really be 2 years)? Just trying to frame the fear you mention. No dog in the hunt as I have a car already and just trying to understand the depth of this peculiar thread (which is an attractive nuisance that I can't seem to elude - kind of like watching Dahmer on Netfilx).
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Just trying to understand what you are "scared" of. So, I agree with you that MSRP or 10% above MSRP isnt coming for a "long" time on the GT3. So, if you feel that $30K over is a number you are willing to pay, and lets assume you could get one now for $60K over, are you scared of the $30K gap if it means you could have the car today and not wait what you think is 1 year (which could really be 2 years)? Just trying to frame the fear you mention. No dog in the hunt as I have a car already and just trying to understand the depth of this peculiar thread (which is an attractive nuisance that I can't seem to elude - kind of like watching Dahmer on Netfilx).
If you go to a certain restaurant that you enjoy, you pretty much already know what's on the menu and how much it will cost.
Otherwise, why step into a restaurant that you cant afford in the first place? Price is the last thing on my mind when I'm out with friends and enjoying good food.
On another note, I find it kind of strange that people focus so obsessively on ADM's getting to their price point - - - yet who is to say that a sales rep at a dealer will even given them an allocation in the first place when they most likely have clients in "line" ahead of them?
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Yeah, I dont quite understand this mindset either.
If you go to a certain restaurant that you enjoy, you pretty much already know what's on the menu and how much it will cost.
Otherwise, why step into a restaurant that you cant afford in the first place? Price is the last thing on my mind when I'm out with friends and enjoying good food.
On another note, I find it kind of strange that people focus so obsessively on ADM's getting to their price point - - - yet who is to say that a sales rep at a dealer will even given them an allocation in the first place when they most likely have clients in "line" ahead of them?
If you go to a certain restaurant that you enjoy, you pretty much already know what's on the menu and how much it will cost.
Otherwise, why step into a restaurant that you cant afford in the first place? Price is the last thing on my mind when I'm out with friends and enjoying good food.
On another note, I find it kind of strange that people focus so obsessively on ADM's getting to their price point - - - yet who is to say that a sales rep at a dealer will even given them an allocation in the first place when they most likely have clients in "line" ahead of them?
Really good points. Funny thing about the ADM is that, when you consider the car versus other "comparables" the GT3 MSRP is significantly lower. I've owned most of them and can tell you the GT3 is as comparable (if not better) an experience than all of them. So, when paying "market" consider the options you are choosing to drive. My biggest confusion point is that we all fall prey to trying to infuse logic into these car choices altogether. It is a moot point trying to debate it....yet, fun trying to do so
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Personally, I say anything over 200k is irrational and just cut the check and have fun it hurts once. My view and my view only when you go well north of 200k, nothing wrong with trying a Ferrari every man should own one once if possible. Reliability is important, but sometimes a street hooker is better than a soccer mom so you can say you tried it. Many guys here think too much on a car purchase, and if you see it as “sunk” cost your view changes. If the purchase really hurts that’s your gut saying maybe I’m in the wrong section of the store we all have limits before it stings and that ok be real with yourself. Be safe, and enjoy the purchase it should be fun vs a exorcism.
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If you go to a certain restaurant that you enjoy, you pretty much already know what's on the menu and how much it will cost.
Otherwise, why step into a restaurant that you cant afford in the first place? Price is the last thing on my mind when I'm out with friends and enjoying good food.
Otherwise, why step into a restaurant that you cant afford in the first place? Price is the last thing on my mind when I'm out with friends and enjoying good food.
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Just traded my 2022 GT4 for $2000 more than I paid - which was msrp. If I had paid $20,000 over msrp trading it in would not be as easy a decision.
I can afford any amount of loss on a car - but buying cars at decent prices is part of the fun and gives you more flexibility on getting rid of car eventually.
I can afford any amount of loss on a car - but buying cars at decent prices is part of the fun and gives you more flexibility on getting rid of car eventually.
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Spend $200k on a car but won’t catch me shopping at Bed Bath Beyond without a 20% off coupon.
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Not seeing many mentions of GT3 RS ADM. Is around $100k the going rate?
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