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Old 11-15-2013, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GSIRM3
An auto just like the PDK.
Not at all like the PDK. The underlying technology is totally different.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FullThrottle64
Not at all like the PDK. The underlying technology is totally different.
The people criticizing "auto" aren't interested in technology. Its a faith-based initiative.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FullThrottle64
It's an auto with a torque converter and a manual shift override.

The technology differences between old-style autos (Lexus), dual-clutch street autos (PDK), and racing dual-clutch manuals are significant. It's not "potato-potahto" at all.
So an auto is just an auto, some just use different parts to shift. A torque converter, magic box, dual clutch. . . whatever you want to call it, they are all still just an auto that you can control gear selection. I get it now
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Old 11-16-2013, 01:51 AM
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56 miles driven so far (new TTS). If I ever drive it in automatic mode (except maybe in brutal traffic) I promise to have a lobotomy.
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CVT > Automatic. (PDK)
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Old 11-16-2013, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck911
The people criticizing "auto" aren't interested in technology. Its a faith-based initiative.
Confirmed. I want the driving enjoyment, the technology behind it isnt the issue.

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So an auto is just an auto, some just use different parts to shift. A torque converter, magic box, dual clutch. . . whatever you want to call it, they are all still just an auto that you can control gear selection. I get it now
Exactly. I dont care if it has 1 clutch, 2 clutches, or a torque converter. Its still an automatic when you dont need to manually row gears.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FullThrottle64
Not at all like the PDK. The underlying technology is totally different.
Didn't say they were the same technology, just that they were both automatic transmissions.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rglbegl
So an auto is just an auto, some just use different parts to shift. A torque converter, magic box, dual clutch. . . whatever you want to call it, they are all still just an auto that you can control gear selection. I get it now
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There is a tremendous difference between a PDK and an automatic.

There is also a tremendous difference between PDK and a racing transmission.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rglbegl
CVT > Automatic. (PDK)
Same same, like Porsche's earlier automatic ring synchro.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:55 PM
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No clutch=automatic
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Old 11-16-2013, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by zelig
No clutch=automatic
PDK has two.
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
PDK has two.
So there are four pedals on the floor?
Gas
Brake
Clutch
other clutch?

I didn't know. That changes everything.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
PDK has two.
So there are four pedals on the floor?
Gas
Brake
Clutch
other clutch?

I didn't know. That changes everything.
Last I checked, a clutch looks nothing like a pedal.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Last I checked, a clutch looks nothing like a pedal.
An eminently logical point. However, see my post above, where it says they really aren't interested in technology? Then a couple posts later its "confirmed?" Well, guess what? They really aren't interested in technology!
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Last I checked, a clutch looks nothing like a pedal.
An eminently logical point. However, see my post above, where it says they really aren't interested in technology? Then a couple posts later its "confirmed?" Well, guess what? They really aren't interested in technology!
I know Chuck. I just think this thread is hilarious. I love manuals. Three of my cars are manuals and I'll always own one. I also really like PDK, and can't wait for my GT3 to get here next year.

I'm just amazed at the conviction some folks have on this subject.
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