No More Manual Gear Box for The 911?
11-08-2013, 02:57 PM
#256
11-08-2013, 06:28 PM
#257
Burning Brakes
Having read the specs on how the PDK-S performs in the new GT3 it looks like they're finally getting closer to the better automanuals out there in DCT and F1 trim from M and Ferrari. I wonder if this will show up as a "performance" option on the lesser Carreras.
11-08-2013, 07:54 PM
#259
Porsche is all about new technology. Except for the 991, every Porsche I've ever owned has been manual. I love manual (and in particular engine braking on a mountain road), but PDK is faster than my arm and leg. Goodbye MT. RIP if the story is true. lol
11-09-2013, 03:11 AM
#260
Rennlist Member
You will be able to engine brake with a PDK, just like a manual.
11-10-2013, 04:38 AM
#265
11-14-2013, 07:08 AM
#266
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After 3 PDK's I went back to the manual. It is just more fun. I drive the car for a fun car, not for the most efficient and fastest shifter.
To those who think the PDK will be 100% on even base cars because it will become too expensive to offer both transmissions, I doubt that. This is a company that will hand trace each little air vent with leather hide for $1700 if you want. There are about 150 individual options. More if you count how you do the contrasted stitching, would be thousands of permutations on the custom ordering side.
So what would be much more likely is during a 991 refresh, and the corresponding price hike on that model year it just goes up by 4k, the PDK becomes standard, and then us guys who esteem how cool the manual is have to pay 4k more as an option to get the PDK deleted.
Smoking package and deletion of model designation still will be free however.
That way they essential get to book a sale and bill a 4k PDK in every car, and for us old timers they get 8k more with a manual which costs about 3k less to make.
But that being said, I'd still pay the 4k extra, to get the manual, that's how much I like it.
To those who think the PDK will be 100% on even base cars because it will become too expensive to offer both transmissions, I doubt that. This is a company that will hand trace each little air vent with leather hide for $1700 if you want. There are about 150 individual options. More if you count how you do the contrasted stitching, would be thousands of permutations on the custom ordering side.
So what would be much more likely is during a 991 refresh, and the corresponding price hike on that model year it just goes up by 4k, the PDK becomes standard, and then us guys who esteem how cool the manual is have to pay 4k more as an option to get the PDK deleted.
Smoking package and deletion of model designation still will be free however.
That way they essential get to book a sale and bill a 4k PDK in every car, and for us old timers they get 8k more with a manual which costs about 3k less to make.
But that being said, I'd still pay the 4k extra, to get the manual, that's how much I like it.
11-14-2013, 01:57 PM
#268
Drifting
There is a thread over on the other board concerning lease rates on the 991. I didn't read all 7 pages, but it seems that Porsche places a lower residual on PDK cars compared to MT cars. I never lease cars, so don't claim to be an expert, but appears Porsche thinks the 991 cars returned off lease will be worth less than the manual transmission cars. Kind of strange that this super-duper PDK is worth less on resale than the MT cars.
11-14-2013, 02:04 PM
#269
Rennlist Member
There is a thread over on the other board concerning lease rates on the 991. I didn't read all 7 pages, but it seems that Porsche places a lower residual on PDK cars compared to MT cars. I never lease cars, so don't claim to be an expert, but appears Porsche thinks the 991 cars returned off lease will be worth less than the manual transmission cars. Kind of strange that this super-duper PDK is worth less on resale than the MT cars.
That is interesting if true.
I figure that when my warranty is out in 4 years or whatever the PDK that will be available for my car when it breaks and if I still own it will be way past the 991 GT3 PDK technonlgy now and much cheaper too! Damn that was a long run- on sentence.
11-14-2013, 02:11 PM
#270
Burning Brakes
That is interesting if true.
I figure that when my warranty is out in 4 years or whatever the PDK that will be available for my car when it breaks and if I still own it will be way past the 991 GT3 PDK technonlgy now and much cheaper too! Damn that was a long run- on sentence.
I figure that when my warranty is out in 4 years or whatever the PDK that will be available for my car when it breaks and if I still own it will be way past the 991 GT3 PDK technonlgy now and much cheaper too! Damn that was a long run- on sentence.
