Thinkdiag Magic
01-05-2024, 10:54 AM
#107
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Found the PDF, amazing detail. Sorry top be a pain, but the PDF refers to the Launch product, are the procedure's the same for the Thinkdiag? Or do I just use the references for the various menus?
01-05-2024, 10:59 AM
#108
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I ordered the unit for $75.96 shipped with discount code so not too much of a risk. Based on crazy cost today thats a family outing to Mcd's so worth it to me.
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01-05-2024, 11:01 AM
#109
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I'll let Ken confirm if he tried the code corrections using ThinkDiag but I'm assuming these were found using X431 programmer so we need to find same code "text" in the ThinkDiag submeunus and select same options. Also note that these were from a 718 not a 991 so I'm assuming there may also be some small differences as a result.
So instructions are the same for both devices.
PIWIS instructions can usually be figured out to the Launch stuff...
One thing I haven't figured out yet but could use help with, is understanding how to convert PIWIS "recipes" into the individual setting changes... for instance, on a PIWIS you can code for say "Sport Design" package and that will make changes X, Y, and Z. But on the Launch we don't have that luxury. So would love to find a way to take the PIWIS recipes and find the individual changes/steps.
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01-05-2024, 12:03 PM
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01-05-2024, 12:26 PM
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Order it on 12/21, UPS delivered it 12/29. So an average delivery time given I ordered it on a Thursday, during a holiday season.
Plugged it in right after getting it, found it wasn't working and contacted support. Granted, that was on a Thursday, but then we had a back/forth proving the defect all week to get a return. If it follows the initial order/delivery schedule I should have a replacement by next Friday?
Probably not an unreasonable turn-around, I was just put off by the constant "prove it's broken" messages.
I did manage to brute-force it into working long enough to check some things and it does seem like it's going to be a winner (provided it actually stays working).
It's really a much more realistic price-point for DIY tweaking stuff. Most of which will only get done once, or /maybe/ after any sort of dealer resetting of non-VIN-registered changes. Though it's not like the X431 units with a display aren't also a bargain, this just shifts the cost of the screen back onto your own Android device. That and some of the permissions the app wants are a bit concerning (like constant geo-location even when not using the app? eff that). So, I don't plan on keeping the app installed unless I'm actively using it. I suppose I should probably get the APK downloaded rather than depend on the app store continuing to keep it listed. That's where some of the X431 offline models are perhaps better choices long-term. I had a previous LAUNCH app that I tried using on my Cayenne and it was a clusterf'k of online registration hassles. This one was a breeze in comparison.
For $68, though, it's probably among the least expensive things I've ever gotten for one of these cars!
Plugged it in right after getting it, found it wasn't working and contacted support. Granted, that was on a Thursday, but then we had a back/forth proving the defect all week to get a return. If it follows the initial order/delivery schedule I should have a replacement by next Friday?
Probably not an unreasonable turn-around, I was just put off by the constant "prove it's broken" messages.
I did manage to brute-force it into working long enough to check some things and it does seem like it's going to be a winner (provided it actually stays working).
It's really a much more realistic price-point for DIY tweaking stuff. Most of which will only get done once, or /maybe/ after any sort of dealer resetting of non-VIN-registered changes. Though it's not like the X431 units with a display aren't also a bargain, this just shifts the cost of the screen back onto your own Android device. That and some of the permissions the app wants are a bit concerning (like constant geo-location even when not using the app? eff that). So, I don't plan on keeping the app installed unless I'm actively using it. I suppose I should probably get the APK downloaded rather than depend on the app store continuing to keep it listed. That's where some of the X431 offline models are perhaps better choices long-term. I had a previous LAUNCH app that I tried using on my Cayenne and it was a clusterf'k of online registration hassles. This one was a breeze in comparison.
For $68, though, it's probably among the least expensive things I've ever gotten for one of these cars!
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01-05-2024, 12:37 PM
#115
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Order it on 12/21, UPS delivered it 12/29. So an average delivery time given I ordered it on a Thursday, during a holiday season.
Plugged it in right after getting it, found it wasn't working and contacted support. Granted, that was on a Thursday, but then we had a back/forth proving the defect all week to get a return. If it follows the initial order/delivery schedule I should have a replacement by next Friday?
Probably not an unreasonable turn-around, I was just put off by the constant "prove it's broken" messages.
I did manage to brute-force it into working long enough to check some things and it does seem like it's going to be a winner (provided it actually stays working).
It's really a much more realistic price-point for DIY tweaking stuff. Most of which will only get done once, or /maybe/ after any sort of dealer resetting of non-VIN-registered changes. Though it's not like the X431 units with a display aren't also a bargain, this just shifts the cost of the screen back onto your own Android device. That and some of the permissions the app wants are a bit concerning (like constant geo-location even when not using the app? eff that). So, I don't plan on keeping the app installed unless I'm actively using it. I suppose I should probably get the APK downloaded rather than depend on the app store continuing to keep it listed. That's where some of the X431 offline models are perhaps better choices long-term. I had a previous LAUNCH app that I tried using on my Cayenne and it was a clusterf'k of online registration hassles. This one was a breeze in comparison.
For $68, though, it's probably among the least expensive things I've ever gotten for one of these cars!
Plugged it in right after getting it, found it wasn't working and contacted support. Granted, that was on a Thursday, but then we had a back/forth proving the defect all week to get a return. If it follows the initial order/delivery schedule I should have a replacement by next Friday?
Probably not an unreasonable turn-around, I was just put off by the constant "prove it's broken" messages.
I did manage to brute-force it into working long enough to check some things and it does seem like it's going to be a winner (provided it actually stays working).
It's really a much more realistic price-point for DIY tweaking stuff. Most of which will only get done once, or /maybe/ after any sort of dealer resetting of non-VIN-registered changes. Though it's not like the X431 units with a display aren't also a bargain, this just shifts the cost of the screen back onto your own Android device. That and some of the permissions the app wants are a bit concerning (like constant geo-location even when not using the app? eff that). So, I don't plan on keeping the app installed unless I'm actively using it. I suppose I should probably get the APK downloaded rather than depend on the app store continuing to keep it listed. That's where some of the X431 offline models are perhaps better choices long-term. I had a previous LAUNCH app that I tried using on my Cayenne and it was a clusterf'k of online registration hassles. This one was a breeze in comparison.
For $68, though, it's probably among the least expensive things I've ever gotten for one of these cars!
01-05-2024, 12:48 PM
#116
Launch is the manufacturer of both ThinkDiag and X431. They run the same software. ThinkDiag uses your device as a user interface, X431 includes the tablet.
So instructions are the same for both devices.
PIWIS instructions can usually be figured out to the Launch stuff...
One thing I haven't figured out yet but could use help with, is understanding how to convert PIWIS "recipes" into the individual setting changes... for instance, on a PIWIS you can code for say "Sport Design" package and that will make changes X, Y, and Z. But on the Launch we don't have that luxury. So would love to find a way to take the PIWIS recipes and find the individual changes/steps.
So instructions are the same for both devices.
PIWIS instructions can usually be figured out to the Launch stuff...
One thing I haven't figured out yet but could use help with, is understanding how to convert PIWIS "recipes" into the individual setting changes... for instance, on a PIWIS you can code for say "Sport Design" package and that will make changes X, Y, and Z. But on the Launch we don't have that luxury. So would love to find a way to take the PIWIS recipes and find the individual changes/steps.
I would also be interested in your thoughts regarding the question I posted above about returning my Launch X431 since I am still within the return period and getting a ThinkDiag. I paid around $400. It seems like the ThinkDiag can do the same thing as my Launch and it is less than $100. I also have a Kindle HD8 that is running the Android OS (LingageOS) that I could use. Are you aware of anything that can be done on an X431 but not a ThinkDiag?
I haven't used a PIWIS so I do not know the answer to that question. However, which PIWIS recipes are you referring to? Maybe they have already been deciphered.
01-05-2024, 01:09 PM
#117
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You are correct that the instructions I sent used a Launch X431 and were for a 718 so it is possible that the codes may be different for your cars and may be different when using a ThinkDiag.
I would also be interested in your thoughts regarding the question I posted above about returning my Launch X431 since I am still within the return period and getting a ThinkDiag. I paid around $400. It seems like the ThinkDiag can do the same thing as my Launch and it is less than $100. I also have a Kindle HD8 that is running the Android OS (LingageOS) that I could use. Are you aware of anything that can be done on an X431 but not a ThinkDiag?
I haven't used a PIWIS so I do not know the answer to that question. However, which PIWIS recipes are you referring to? Maybe they have already been deciphered.
I would also be interested in your thoughts regarding the question I posted above about returning my Launch X431 since I am still within the return period and getting a ThinkDiag. I paid around $400. It seems like the ThinkDiag can do the same thing as my Launch and it is less than $100. I also have a Kindle HD8 that is running the Android OS (LingageOS) that I could use. Are you aware of anything that can be done on an X431 but not a ThinkDiag?
I haven't used a PIWIS so I do not know the answer to that question. However, which PIWIS recipes are you referring to? Maybe they have already been deciphered.
01-05-2024, 01:19 PM
#118
Then open it, you'll get a prompt where you have to authorize Chrome to install 3rd party apps.
https://mythinkcar.com/pages/software-download
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