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#6242
One downside I am discovering wrt McLaren is the lack of source for parts and independent mechanics - you'll need to visit the dealership, and parts through McLaren are very expense - for example 675LT uses the same rotor ring as Corvette but McLaren charge 300% more than GM for the same part, of course you can work around these things but just something to think about.
#6243
The 570GT has a softer ride than the S, which IMO isn’t necessary because the 570S in normal mode is as comfortable as a sports/super car can get. The additional (small) luggage space can come in handy, though - i can carry next to nothing in the 570S. I do like the look of the flying buttresses of the S a lot better though.
the real reason to get the 570S is that you can get it in a Spider. All the benefits of the convertible but because of the CF tub lightness and rigidity, without much of the drawbacks
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#6244
Thanks guys. I'm not letting go of the GT3 without a fight, but want to be ready with options. I'm in agreement that, after some reading, I think an S or Spider would be preferable to the GT3. I don't need the storage space.
I do like to spend time at the track, but realize my reflexes, nerves and endurance aren't what they once were. I would guess I tend to drive at 8-9/10 of my capability, which falls short of the GT3s. If I had to avoid the track entirely for fear of limp mode, damage, etc. that would not be an immediate "no" but it would give me concern.
I do like to spend time at the track, but realize my reflexes, nerves and endurance aren't what they once were. I would guess I tend to drive at 8-9/10 of my capability, which falls short of the GT3s. If I had to avoid the track entirely for fear of limp mode, damage, etc. that would not be an immediate "no" but it would give me concern.
#6245
765LT vs Porsche Cup Car at Laguna, 105 day. LT is stock except for 3 session old Goodyear 3R tires, hasn't even had a track alignment and was driven by pro coach Jeff Cook. Best lap was around a 1:27.9 in traffic. I do love the sound of those straight-cut gears in the Cup car.
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#6247
I recently purchased a 675LT and its been a revelation on how good the McLaren cars are to drive. I had a .2GT3 and that does set a very high bar but I am sure the 570S or GT will be great for your use case.
One downside I am discovering wrt McLaren is the lack of source for parts and independent mechanics - you'll need to visit the dealership, and parts through McLaren are very expense - for example 675LT uses the same rotor ring as Corvette but McLaren charge 300% more than GM for the same part, of course you can work around these things but just something to think about.
One downside I am discovering wrt McLaren is the lack of source for parts and independent mechanics - you'll need to visit the dealership, and parts through McLaren are very expense - for example 675LT uses the same rotor ring as Corvette but McLaren charge 300% more than GM for the same part, of course you can work around these things but just something to think about.
- P1 bucket seats
- nose lift
- if you track the clubsport professional track. And see if you can find one with the titanium roll bar (don't think they came on US cars but there's half a dozen Canadian cars and plenty of ROW cars with them).
The only cool option on the 675 that is not on the 765 Is a functional roof scoop. It's a masterpiece and sounds incredible.
To note a car cannot be optioned with a roof scoop and the titanium roll bar. Pick your preference - I track so opted for the roll bar and the harness belts over the roof scoop.
Other then that there are plenty of CF options and wheel options. Here's a good resource:
https://www.romansinternational.com/...-buyers-guide/
- nose lift
- if you track the clubsport professional track. And see if you can find one with the titanium roll bar (don't think they came on US cars but there's half a dozen Canadian cars and plenty of ROW cars with them).
The only cool option on the 675 that is not on the 765 Is a functional roof scoop. It's a masterpiece and sounds incredible.
To note a car cannot be optioned with a roof scoop and the titanium roll bar. Pick your preference - I track so opted for the roll bar and the harness belts over the roof scoop.
Other then that there are plenty of CF options and wheel options. Here's a good resource:
https://www.romansinternational.com/...-buyers-guide/
Regarding my friend BayAreaNady and his 765LT.. .he's a friend of mine and has been working hard on getting fast in his track cars... here was him and I at Laguna back in the day of Turn 1 club.
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#6250
Drove a friend's 675lt spider for a month and here are couple of thoughts to share (all subjective of course):
1. it feels light, compared to 3rs/2rs, it feels nimble especially in turns, this a huge plus in my book
2. acceleration felt quicker than 2rs (2rs might be quick in reality) due to 675lt boost coming on later and more abruptly
3. can't see anything to the rear with the wing in active mode
4. brake feel is better on RS
5. doors opening up takes so much room to clear, horrible in parking garage
6. definitely want one
there are couple of very unique things, for one my foot has very limited room next to the brake pedal when cruising. The entire interior feels much smaller, and it is smaller, I am not claustrophobic but being able to touch the passenger side door panel is something of a shock when you are seated in the driver's seat. Maybe it's the trefo r, maybe it is the way the brakes are setup, braking isn't exactly confidence inspiring compared to RS. Perhaps it's due to the difference in mechanical grip in the front, it feels not as stable as RS, but 675lt's chassis is very unique and I cannot use precise words to describe, but it feels bouncy even in normal mode so kudos to Porsche for tuning our suspension so well. And if anyone is sensitive to noise, due to carbonfiber monoque basically amplifies all the road pebbles and exhaust vibrations through the entire cabin, so in this sense, it might give a false sense of poor build quality. Overall 675lt is a fun weekend car.
1. it feels light, compared to 3rs/2rs, it feels nimble especially in turns, this a huge plus in my book
2. acceleration felt quicker than 2rs (2rs might be quick in reality) due to 675lt boost coming on later and more abruptly
3. can't see anything to the rear with the wing in active mode
4. brake feel is better on RS
5. doors opening up takes so much room to clear, horrible in parking garage
6. definitely want one
there are couple of very unique things, for one my foot has very limited room next to the brake pedal when cruising. The entire interior feels much smaller, and it is smaller, I am not claustrophobic but being able to touch the passenger side door panel is something of a shock when you are seated in the driver's seat. Maybe it's the trefo r, maybe it is the way the brakes are setup, braking isn't exactly confidence inspiring compared to RS. Perhaps it's due to the difference in mechanical grip in the front, it feels not as stable as RS, but 675lt's chassis is very unique and I cannot use precise words to describe, but it feels bouncy even in normal mode so kudos to Porsche for tuning our suspension so well. And if anyone is sensitive to noise, due to carbonfiber monoque basically amplifies all the road pebbles and exhaust vibrations through the entire cabin, so in this sense, it might give a false sense of poor build quality. Overall 675lt is a fun weekend car.
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#6251
Drove a friend's 675lt spider for a month and here are couple of thoughts to share (all subjective of course):
1. it feels light, compared to 3rs/2rs, it feels nimble especially in turns, this a huge plus in my book
2. acceleration felt quicker than 2rs (2rs might be quick in reality) due to 675lt boost coming on later and more abruptly
3. can't see anything to the rear with the wing in active mode
4. brake feel is better on RS
5. doors opening up takes so much room to clear, horrible in parking garage
6. definitely want one
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1. it feels light, compared to 3rs/2rs, it feels nimble especially in turns, this a huge plus in my book
2. acceleration felt quicker than 2rs (2rs might be quick in reality) due to 675lt boost coming on later and more abruptly
3. can't see anything to the rear with the wing in active mode
4. brake feel is better on RS
5. doors opening up takes so much room to clear, horrible in parking garage
6. definitely want one
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The front end of the Mecca is so keen to turn-in, much better than even the 991.2 3RS, but hoping the 992's double wishbone will fix that.
I had a tune on the 570S and yes it was much faster than the 3RS.
Porsche's brake feel is the best, had PCCB on the RS, PCCB on the '18 GT3, irons on the Touring, and smaller irons on the '19 Carrera T. The PCCB's really do feel better than the irons. Hate the brake feel on the Mecca, and when stopped, I had to consciously press hard on the brake pedal, otherwise the car would creep forward. Never have that happen to me on any other cars w/ power brakes. This is the worse part of the Macca.
So 992 GT3 or 675LT or 720S used????
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Originally Posted by bli8
Comparing my GT3's to my 570S, I have exactly the same sentiments.
The front end of the Mecca is so keen to turn-in, much better than even the 991.2 3RS, but hoping the 992's double wishbone will fix that.
I had a tune on the 570S and yes it was much faster than the 3RS.
Porsche's brake feel is the best, had PCCB on the RS, PCCB on the '18 GT3, irons on the Touring, and smaller irons on the '19 Carrera T. The PCCB's really do feel better than the irons. Hate the brake feel on the Mecca, and when stopped, I had to consciously press hard on the brake pedal, otherwise the car would creep forward. Never have that happen to me on any other cars w/ power brakes. This is the worse part of the Macca.
So 992 GT3 or 675LT or 720S used????
The front end of the Mecca is so keen to turn-in, much better than even the 991.2 3RS, but hoping the 992's double wishbone will fix that.
I had a tune on the 570S and yes it was much faster than the 3RS.
Porsche's brake feel is the best, had PCCB on the RS, PCCB on the '18 GT3, irons on the Touring, and smaller irons on the '19 Carrera T. The PCCB's really do feel better than the irons. Hate the brake feel on the Mecca, and when stopped, I had to consciously press hard on the brake pedal, otherwise the car would creep forward. Never have that happen to me on any other cars w/ power brakes. This is the worse part of the Macca.
So 992 GT3 or 675LT or 720S used????
#6253
The bite might be better, but alot of the "wooden" feel to the Mclaren ceramic brakes is from the long pedal travel (at least compared to Porsche).
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#6255
Long travel I don't mind as much as the short travel touchy brake feel that many Ferraris have. Again Porsche GT3's iron and PCCB brakes just have the perfect feel and bite, and IMO no other manufacturer's come close.