McLaren Success
06-30-2019, 06:08 PM
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thebishman (06-30-2019)
07-01-2019, 09:18 AM
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Interesting product, and I'm not surprised by the growth of 100%. Still hard to gauge if they are pulling share from Porsche, Ferrari, or Lambo minus seeing the side by sides. Also an increase of 1600 car sales across the globe is a small number relative to the number of Porsche cars sold that compete in the same space if some share came off Porsche.
I see several issues with MAC small dealer network, high depreciation, owners get screwed because their car is obselete the next year with a new model. (650, 650S, and two versions of the 570 in less than a year) if I would take a guess I would say share is coming from Ferrari or Lambo because of the price point. Also Porsche GT cars tend to be used by more guys that track their cars and driving the crap out of them, and MAC is more see my new toy in most cases. I have a friend that had 3 650's, 570, and 675LT, and all sold or traded with less than 2000 miles.
I have driven the 650S, and the brakes are crap when stopping hard at 190mph. Same run in a Turbo S the brakes are rock solid and I felt safe vs. the MAC getting loose in the back during braking. The Porsche never over heated launch after launch like the MAC so they have some durability issues to solve, but they are super fast! They do make it easy to order cars, and paint them any color you like though? Almost purchased, but would never buy new due to the depreciation hit which is terrible.
I see several issues with MAC small dealer network, high depreciation, owners get screwed because their car is obselete the next year with a new model. (650, 650S, and two versions of the 570 in less than a year) if I would take a guess I would say share is coming from Ferrari or Lambo because of the price point. Also Porsche GT cars tend to be used by more guys that track their cars and driving the crap out of them, and MAC is more see my new toy in most cases. I have a friend that had 3 650's, 570, and 675LT, and all sold or traded with less than 2000 miles.
I have driven the 650S, and the brakes are crap when stopping hard at 190mph. Same run in a Turbo S the brakes are rock solid and I felt safe vs. the MAC getting loose in the back during braking. The Porsche never over heated launch after launch like the MAC so they have some durability issues to solve, but they are super fast! They do make it easy to order cars, and paint them any color you like though? Almost purchased, but would never buy new due to the depreciation hit which is terrible.
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thebishman (07-01-2019)
07-01-2019, 01:20 PM
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Funny I wrote thus 2 plus years ago, and bought a 675LT ........well didn’t buy new and the car had 1900 miles on it which was a good deal. It’s a great driving car, and will measure reliability but hell it has a warranty. One of the best cars I’ve driven and I driven lots of them. Time will tell. (:
Enjoy.. That's a fantastic spec!
07-01-2019, 03:42 PM
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Yes for sure, and I eat my humble pie. Now my pain was really around the 650(:
07-17-2019, 07:04 AM
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How about a 20x20 bbs fir wheel setup and use the pista cup 2 r tires? Similar sizes, very similar car both in weight distribution, total weight and aero, I bet they will fit like they were made for the car. Only minus is that the front will ride slightly higher than it's supposed. Maybe a -5mm spring will do the trick? Guys from Apex Nurburgring were using nankang tires with good reviews, might be worth trying.
07-21-2019, 04:08 PM
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07-22-2019, 04:54 PM
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Corvette C8 thread has been moved, this one???
why this thread is not moved too?
07-22-2019, 05:24 PM
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07-22-2019, 10:04 PM
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delete.
07-22-2019, 10:07 PM
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I really don’t want to see this thread moved. I like talking about cars with people i feel i know, whether that is a GT car, McLaren, Ferrari, Corvette or Jeep.
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thebishman (07-22-2019)
07-22-2019, 10:16 PM
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Agree, but they should consolidate all these treads by car maker though. So we don’t end up with five different trades about the same car.