Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

991 GT2RS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-28-2017, 04:21 PM
  #3736  
ipse dixit
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
ipse dixit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 16,839
Likes: 0
Received 11,516 Likes on 5,048 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by nuvolari612
Yeah - the P1 2M+ selling price really matters to McLaren.

Porsche guys freaked out when the SV and Performante times were turned but the 2RS comes in and no one questions anything - add water and get sub 6:50 2RS is a incredibly fast turbo love the W but impassible to get.
Originally Posted by NateOZ
Do people actually buy cars based on Ring time?

Don't know anyone that does - so I'm more in McLaren's camp of not seeing the value. Also never been at the track where we've talked about Ring times vs our own times/where we think we can get to.
Originally Posted by SEB74
I do yes, do iam a stupid guy? Do I need to consult a doctor or psy you think?
Originally Posted by CHADW
I’m not saying right or wrong but yes I think being the quickest car in the world at the planet’s most demanding track increases demand for said vehicle.
I think it's pretty fair to say that Porsche would have no problem selling the 991.2 GT2 RS with or without an official Ring time, just as McLaren had no problems selling the P1 GTR without a Ring time.

And while I don't buy a car based just on Ring time (or any lap times), I think it is something people do take into consideration. It is, at least, a factor for me when I'm buying a sports car / weekend track toy. Will I not buy a 911 based only on the fact that a similarly priced GT-R (for example) laps the Ring faster? No, but it is something that I will take into consideration.

And, really, it would be foolish not to, especially when these marques advertise their sports cars with slogans like "the most track focused" or "racing bred" or in the case of the P1 GTR ... "Without road-car regulations to hold it back, the McLaren P1™ GTR is the ultimate driving machine."
Old 09-28-2017, 04:58 PM
  #3737  
mariusl
Intermediate
 
mariusl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Nizer
listen to what AP has repeatedly said; they'll make all the cars they think they can sell within the available production window.
Which tells absolute nothing! Do they think they can sell 500 cars? 1000 cars? 2000 cars? 10000 cars?

Are they able to produce 500 cars? 1000 cars? 2000 cars? 10000 cars? in the available production window?

Guess we will wait and see - I'm guessing 2000 cars world wide.
Old 09-28-2017, 05:03 PM
  #3738  
RDM2418
Racer
 
RDM2418's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Houston
Posts: 481
Received 93 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

I've heard no U.S. deliveries until August 2018. Anyone hear anything different for the U.S.?
Old 09-28-2017, 05:06 PM
  #3739  
SEB74
Racer
 
SEB74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 71 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I think it's pretty fair to say that Porsche would have no problem selling the 991.2 GT2 RS with or without an official Ring time, just as McLaren had no problems selling the P1 GTR without a Ring time.

And while I don't buy a car based just on Ring time (or any lap times), I think it is something people do take into consideration. It is, at least, a factor for me when I'm buying a sports car / weekend track toy. Will I not buy a 911 based only on the fact that a similarly priced GT-R (for example) laps the Ring faster? No, but it is something that I will take into consideration.

And, really, it would be foolish not to, especially when these marques advertise their sports cars with slogans like "the most track focused" or "racing bred" or in the case of the P1 GTR ... "Without road-car regulations to hold it back, the McLaren P1 GTR is the ultimate driving machine."
It is alway a difference of point of view, for you the ultimate car is the P1 GTR? For me on track it will be a FERRARI f1 2008 ex Massa(yes you can buy it and drive by the CORSE CLIENTI department) and for extrem road car Ferrari FXX EDO COMP (street legal)

point of view, just point of view.......
Old 09-28-2017, 05:14 PM
  #3740  
Footsoldier
Burning Brakes
 
Footsoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 999
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mariusl
Guess we will wait and see
11 years wait for your first post, I think you have more patience than the rest of us...
Old 09-28-2017, 05:16 PM
  #3741  
LexVan
Banned
 
LexVan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 26,141
Likes: 0
Received 5,402 Likes on 2,513 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Footsoldier
11 years wait for your first post, I think you have more patience than the rest of us...
And he remembered his password! Dilly! Dilly!!
Old 09-28-2017, 05:24 PM
  #3742  
schein609
Rennlist Member
 
schein609's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 58
Received 28 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

I was told August build date. Received allocation through PMNA.
Old 09-28-2017, 05:27 PM
  #3743  
ipse dixit
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
ipse dixit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 16,839
Likes: 0
Received 11,516 Likes on 5,048 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Footsoldier
11 years wait for your first post, I think you have more patience than the rest of us...
Originally Posted by LexVan
And he remembered his password! Dilly! Dilly!!
evidence of just how good the GT2 RS is
Old 09-28-2017, 05:30 PM
  #3744  
Footsoldier
Burning Brakes
 
Footsoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 999
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ipse dixit
evidence of just how good the GT2 RS is
"I'm joining now, but I'm not posting til someone goes sub 6.50"
Old 09-28-2017, 05:34 PM
  #3745  
mariusl
Intermediate
 
mariusl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Footsoldier
"I'm joining now, but I'm not posting til someone goes sub 6.50"
(or shall I wait another 11 yrs?)
Old 09-28-2017, 05:35 PM
  #3746  
Jean
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member

 
Jean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,445
Received 168 Likes on 100 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Footsoldier
11 years wait for your first post, I think you have more patience than the rest of us...
well spotted! Where have you been Marius!!
Old 09-28-2017, 05:39 PM
  #3747  
usctrojanGT3
Rennlist Member
 
usctrojanGT3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 16,519
Received 3,979 Likes on 2,266 Posts
Default

Seems like PMNA has given out more GT2RS allocation to non-VIP Rennlist folks than dealerships. haha
Old 09-28-2017, 10:15 PM
  #3748  
Termsheet
Intermediate
 
Termsheet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by schein609
I was told August build date. Received allocation through PMNA.
Same with me. August 18 build, 2019 model year on PMNA allocation.
Old 09-28-2017, 10:31 PM
  #3749  
br911
Rennlist Member
 
br911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,024
Likes: 0
Received 87 Likes on 74 Posts
Default

Nice to read that PMNA is distributing allocations - seems like a good way to reward some strong client relationships. Some dealers might be upset, since PMNA is reducing the number of allocations available to be sold to highest bidder regardless of history with Porsche. Am I reading this correctly? Is PÁG finally doing something about ADMs?

Also, interesting to see how good Porsche engineering is - Just a couple of years ago, Godzilla tried to compete with whatever Porsches at the Ring. Now they don't even try anymore, it seems. AMG and Lamborghini are the only ones out there close to Porsche, but Nissan and BMW seem to be competing in the next tier with the much cheaper, quite competent, American cars. McLaren might be a strong contender, but who knows what the 720 S can do at the Ring in a controlled setting? They do not want to enter the Ring marketing program, apparently.
Old 09-28-2017, 11:31 PM
  #3750  
fxz
Race Car
 
fxz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist hre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
Posts: 4,484
Received 436 Likes on 262 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Seems like PMNA has given out more GT2RS allocation to non-VIP Rennlist folks than dealerships. haha
PMNA = Porsche Mexico and North America?


Quick Reply: 991 GT2RS



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 11:43 PM.