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Old 09-28-2017, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nuvolari612
Yeah - the P1 2M+ selling price really matters to McLaren.

Porsche guys freaked out when the SV and Performante times were turned but the 2RS comes in and no one questions anything - add water and get sub 6:50 2RS is a incredibly fast turbo love the W but impassible to get.
Nobody knows for certain if this will be impossible to obtain.. I am still waiting to hear back from my dealer about my brothers allocation... and while it may not happen, they haven't told me "no" which is what they would have said if it were impossible.
Old 09-28-2017, 10:20 AM
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:21 AM
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Back in the earlier days of the Hyper Car, there were articles when the McLaren P1 and LaFerrari refused to compete "independently" conducted by a third party against the 918 Spyder.

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https://forums.anandtech.com/threads...e-918.2422168/


Then there was an awesome video where the three Hyper Cars were tested on the same track, same driver, factory spec'd.

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The result was very favorable to us PORSCHE owners.

And this was the picture after the winner was announced. It was lunch time for the 918 Spyder.



For now, PORSCHE owns Nurburgring.

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Old 09-28-2017, 01:15 PM
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Do people actually buy cars based on Ring time?

Don't know anyone that does - so I'm more in McLaren's camp of not seeing the value. Also never been at the track where we've talked about Ring times vs our own times/where we think we can get to.
Old 09-28-2017, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
Do people actually buy cars based on Ring time?

Don't know anyone that does - so I'm more in McLaren's camp of not seeing the value. Also never been at the track where we've talked about Ring times vs our own times/where we think we can get to.
I do yes, do iam a stupid guy? Do I need to consult a doctor or psy you think?
Old 09-28-2017, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
Do people actually buy cars based on Ring time?

Don't know anyone that does - so I'm more in McLaren's camp of not seeing the value. Also never been at the track where we've talked about Ring times vs our own times/where we think we can get to.
I’m not saying right or wrong but yes I think being the quickest car in the world at the planet’s most demanding track increases demand for said vehicle.
Old 09-28-2017, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RealityGT
Nobody knows for certain if this will be impossible to obtain.. I am still waiting to hear back from my dealer about my brothers allocation... and while it may not happen, they haven't told me "no" which is what they would have said if it were impossible.
Procrastinate when spending 300k.

That's bs - dealers whole premise are to sell cars when someone walks in the door.

Someone wants to play games that's fine I do not - read all the guys who post and feel the same it's not the customers job to be a customer.

This is a porsche marketing show with no go - for whatever reason we can not get a car that was told to be available - the end.
Old 09-28-2017, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by raclaims
Hhahahaha...too bad Guards doesn't really look like that...looks amazing in those pix!

Carmine is pretty close though.
Old 09-28-2017, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CHADW
I’m not saying right or wrong but yes I think being the quickest car in the world at the planet’s most demanding track increases demand for said vehicle.
If you look at the $250k+ segment though, which time is available to compare it to?

I honestly don't pay that much attention to who's running it these days and not, but I don't recall seeing a 488 time, 720S etc. Right now it seems to be only VW putting the effort into run it at the higher end, 918 beaten by Performante, beaten by GT2 RS.
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
If you look at the $250k+ segment though, which time is available to compare it to?

I honestly don't pay that much attention to who's running it these days and not, but I don't recall seeing a 488 time, 720S etc. Right now it seems to be only VW putting the effort into run it at the higher end, 918 beaten by Performante, beaten by GT2 RS.
The ones that break the record will always seem to be the only ones "putting in the effort" and "taking it seriously". The ones that tried and failed be like: "Just did it for fun -- who needs a new record, anyway?"
Old 09-28-2017, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nuvolari612
Procrastinate when spending 300k.

That's bs - dealers whole premise are to sell cars when someone walks in the door.

Someone wants to play games that's fine I do not - read all the guys who post and feel the same it's not the customers job to be a customer.

This is a porsche marketing show with no go - for whatever reason we can not get a car that was told to be available - the end.
Hey, I hear you.. My bro's spec was $400k+ CAD..lol Why a dealer would not want that $ is beyond me.. he is also UHNW, so doing business would be beneficial for them, not only future business but referrals..
That said, when speaking with my dealer principle it did seem as though the limitation was from porsche directly...

918 owner Whoopsy, has been kind enough to share some insider info and has publicly stated that they won't be limited and I certainly hope that he is correct (once again) Now I know you don't see eye-to-eye, with 918 owners, but from my experience, he (whoopsy) seems to have always been spot on when sharing with this community.

I'm staying positive until I get the official "no" from my dealer. (for the sake of being able to drive this beast.. lol)
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^ we are fortunate to have Whoopsy's ear and him sharing here
For sure a big 10-4
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people in north america getting worked up about allocations need to relax. nobody on this side of the pond will get a car until euro deliveries are satisfied, which means virtually nothing until 2018. in the meantime, unscrupulous dealers will do all they can to fan the fire. best to ignore them and listen to what AP has repeatedly said; they'll make all the cars they think they can sell within the available production window. and go work on your driving skills with a coach while you're waiting. you're going to need it.

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Originally Posted by NateOZ
Do people actually buy cars based on Ring time?

Don't know anyone that does - so I'm more in McLaren's camp of not seeing the value. Also never been at the track where we've talked about Ring times vs our own times/where we think we can get to.
McLaren tests on the Nurburgring
but doesn't care enough to post a time. Maybe they weren't happy with their time.
Old 09-28-2017, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
If you look at the $250k+ segment though, which time is available to compare it to?

I honestly don't pay that much attention to who's running it these days and not, but I don't recall seeing a 488 time, 720S etc. Right now it seems to be only VW putting the effort into run it at the higher end, 918 beaten by Performante, beaten by GT2 RS.
488 time 7.21.63


Now that was a Sport Auto Super Test, and not Ferrari themselves running a controlled session with their own drivers so expect 4-5 seconds shaved off that time for sure.


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