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Old 03-04-2015, 10:36 AM
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997 GT3 RS 4.0 is lighter and has the same 500hp!

What am i missing here?
Old 03-04-2015, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Nice to see he found the turbo speculation as amusing as I did.
just like when he made the infamous "flappy paddles are for grandmas" comment?



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Originally Posted by irule
997 GT3 RS 4.0 is lighter and has the same 500hp!

What am i missing here?
"sum of the parts..."


At least thats what Im saying to myself
Old 03-04-2015, 10:43 AM
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question on materials:
Magnesium- Roof
Carbon Fiber- Hood, fenders, deck, & wing

what are doors and quarter panels made of, aluminum?
Old 03-04-2015, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
The data I've seen suggests that a 991 GT3 on slicks (and aligned for them) will be as fast or a little faster than a 996 cup on slicks.
I had heard also early 997 Cups also would be beaten by 991.2 GT3 on slicks.
Old 03-04-2015, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kosmo
question on materials:
Magnesium- Roof
Carbon Fiber- Hood, fenders, deck, & wing

what are doors and quarter panels made of, aluminum?
Yes. Doors and body shell are made of aluminum
Old 03-04-2015, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mass_K
I would not expect it to keep up with the 997 cup. I drive at Sebring quite a bit and the pros are able to get the cup times down to around 2:05. The 991 gt3 are 11 seconds slower easily and I'm guessing the gt3 rs will be around 7-8 seconds slower.

Don't quote me, this is just an opinion based on previous knowledge.
But to make it apples to apples, you need to put pros in the 991 GT3 also and put slicks on them. I'm thinking that going from MPSC2 to slicks should be worth at least 3 seconds at a ~2:00 track.
Old 03-04-2015, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mass_K
I would not expect it to keep up with the 997 cup. I drive at Sebring quite a bit and the pros are able to get the cup times down to around 2:05. The 991 gt3 are 11 seconds slower easily and I'm guessing the gt3 rs will be around 7-8 seconds slower.

Don't quote me, this is just an opinion based on previous knowledge.
I think it will be harder to get the most out of a CUP and there is a 4 second difference (and a couple thousand a day) just in tires.

The old 4.0 was a 2:13-2:14 car with a LSD and slicks.
This one would be faster, not that I will ever try slicks or can get the last second(s) out of it.
Old 03-04-2015, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CGT000
Than what is the real HP? Why a secret?
Not a secret...but they are quoting dyno'd results of engine while static in dyno room. The reports from Motorsports program is this engine is producing much more than 500hp at higher speeds because of new intake design. The front fender vents are said to be evacuating air directly at both the engine air intakes located in rear fenders and also making rear wing more efficient than in 997 RS.
Old 03-04-2015, 10:59 AM
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An early non blipper 997 is not doing 205's at Sebring....even if it was in Patrick Long's hands!
Old 03-04-2015, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by brake dust
The CH video - lot's of cars now with center lock wheels.
hmmm...really?

488 no...675 LT no...R8 V10 no....GT4 no...

ahh found 'em...

RS, Aston GT3, Aventador SV...and the P1, 'Keg Regera? (those last two are unobtanium...so not sure they count...)

sooo....not sure i buy that that's really "lots".....
Old 03-04-2015, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sccchiii
The front fender vents are said to be evacuating air directly at both the engine air intakes located in rear fenders...

what?

what do the fender vents have to do w/ hp? those vents are there to relieve pressure from the wheel wells.
Old 03-04-2015, 11:03 AM
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As per AP from the EVO video, the only explanation I see in the ''500hp, very very conservative'' is that they don't want to cannibalize TURBO territory neither killing the old mezger in the release of the first new DFI engine.

he looks so confident in the weight saved and reinvested in the car with the special mention "test it and you'll see" that I am pretty sure this RS is something pretty special.

8800rpm is a non subject.

I am excited to see the price here as well as PTS opportunity
Old 03-04-2015, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kobalt
Evo Andreas Preuninger

"Very, Very, Verrrry conservative 500 hp"


Porsche 911 GT3 RS - Geneva Motor Show - YouTube
Great video, thanks Kobalt!

I am taking off those front mesh grills (fenders)!

"...the lateral acceleration you can have...."

They can take my money now, like neanicu says!!
Old 03-04-2015, 11:09 AM
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So let's assume that the car is weighting 1.420 kg including club sport package since it seems standard in Europe the roll cage. Then detract the lighter battery and PCCB and we arrive at "about" 1.392 kg.This seems the lighter configuration until you delete the roll cage.
Now considering that this engine could deliver at least (probably and after the interview) 520 hp, at the end the relation will be : 1.392 kg : 520 = 2,67 kg/hp.
The same or very close to the Ferrari 458 that never weights less than 1.490 kg (so 2,61 kg/hp).
My Speciale with just few few options was 1.430 kg (so about 35 kg more than declared as usual).
1.430: 605 = 2,36 kg/hp. Regular Gt3 is in standard conditions (not options included nor roll cage): 3 kg/hp. All this just to get some ideas of the final performances..and not yet considering AERO and Tires..


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