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Old 03-11-2013, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
Talk about whining Rushman...geesh you're doing an awesome job of it yourself. You are failing to understand the issue about the seats.

The insurance argument IS NOT FALSE. I challange you to look into it with any major insurance company. What company do you work for? Care to post a legal statement about this? I have done my homework on this and I see you have not.

Bottom line is simple...if you disarm any part of the federally mandated air bag system and install race seats in a street car that do not have the federally DOT tested side impact air bag in the seat you insurance will be void in the event of an accident on the street. Even worse if you have a passenger in the car and they get hurt due to not having the tested and properly functioning air bag system lawyer will have a field day in court with you.
That is fully correct. !
Old 03-12-2013, 09:59 AM
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Oh Rushman, where are you????... We were all hoping to be schooled on insurance 101 from a pro....
Old 03-12-2013, 10:04 AM
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I called PCNA last week to file an inquiry on the lack of sport bucket seats for the US market. I was told I would get a response this week. I will call again if there is no answer by Friday and will update everyone when I get more information.

As for installing these seats in the 991 GT3, I really don't think it would be an issue aside from money and the hassle of the install. I would assume that you get an airbag light when disconnecting the seats which would have to be reset by the dealer. You might be able to prevent this by disconnecting the battery beforehand.
Old 03-12-2013, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon70
I called PCNA last week to file an inquiry on the lack of sport bucket seats for the US market. I was told I would get a response this week. I will call again if there is no answer by Friday and will update everyone when I get more information.

As for installing these seats in the 991 GT3, I really don't think it would be an issue aside from money and the hassle of the install. I would assume that you get an airbag light when disconnecting the seats which would have to be reset by the dealer. You might be able to prevent this by disconnecting the battery beforehand.

Thanks keep us posted

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Old 03-12-2013, 06:28 PM
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I asked a friend/Pcars Master Tech if the present GT2 seats will connect to the 991s..."Nope".
"need to wait for the 991 GT2-type seats to be released".
Old 03-12-2013, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GTEE3
I asked a friend/Pcars Master Tech if the present GT2 seats will connect to the 991s..."Nope".
"need to wait for the 991 GT2-type seats to be released".
Did he say if the seat brackets to connect the seat to the tub are different or is it the electrical plug into the cars electronics system is different?

What GT2 Sport Bucket seats are they using in Europe for the 991 GT3?
Old 03-12-2013, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
What GT2 Sport Bucket seats are they using in Europe for the 991 GT3?
P03 Sports bucket seats
Lightweight racing bucket seats with hinged backrest, integrated thorax airbag and manual fore/aft adjustment for driver and front passenger sides. The seat shell is made from glass and carbon fibre-reinforced plastic (GFRP/CFRP) with a surface of exposed carbon. Black leather seat covering with the seat centre in Black Alcantara, headrests with stitched “GT3” logo, Platinum Grey.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:22 PM
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I guess all someone has to do is find the part number for the GT2 style bucket seats for 991 that is available in Europe and compare it to the part number for the GT2 bucket seats for 997? If they are the same, they should definitely fit, if not, I guess it doesn't necessarily mean they won't fit, but there is a possibility.
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Ignoring all of the hating and whining stuff, and focusing on seat swaps, I can tell you that GT2 seats can be swapped with the original 997.1 GT3 "sport seats", and that the OEM seats were electrical for seatback tilt and maybe for seat heaters, while the GT2 seats were all manual. Both have airbags. So maybe the same will prove true for the OEM 991 seats.
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Originally Posted by GTEE3
I asked a friend/Pcars Master Tech if the present GT2 seats will connect to the 991s..."Nope".
"need to wait for the 991 GT2-type seats to be released".
Yes that is Porsche's "official" answer too, but that does not mean it cannot be done.
There is a guy on 6speed that did it in his 991 C2S, I just send him a message asking what issues (if any) he encountered
Can't imagine the GT3 being that much different from the C2S as far as the seat connectors are concerned.
So if he overcame the issue it is very well possible (lets wait when he gets back to me on it)
I also send a message to Champion Motorsport with the same question

Mike
Old 03-12-2013, 09:06 PM
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Order the euro seats from Gert Carnewal www.carnewal.com
Old 03-12-2013, 10:27 PM
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Mdrums,
"the electrical connectors are completely different".
"all the wiring and connectors in the 997s are different from the 991"
Old 03-12-2013, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GTEE3
I asked a friend/Pcars Master Tech if the present GT2 seats will connect to the 991s..."Nope".
"need to wait for the 991 GT2-type seats to be released".
Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Order the euro seats from Gert Carnewal www.carnewal.com
Bob is right. The 991 GT2 seats have already been released and are available across the 991 line in the ROW. Gert should be able to get them.
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Can't you order the car outside US and bring it in yourself? With bucket seats and clubsport package.
Old 03-13-2013, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Bob is right. The 991 GT2 seats have already been released and are available across the 991 line in the ROW. Gert should be able to get them.
Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Order the euro seats from Gert Carnewal www.carnewal.com
Where do you think 'Suncoast' (a Porsche dealer) and other importers get their Porsche gt2 'sport bucket seats' that they have for sale to US customers...China? Whatever 'seat' Gert can get from Porsche in Germany, so can any qualified US importer like Suncoast Porsche order too! This is aftermarket sales. There are not restrictions for them like there are for the US importer (PCNA) of the fully assembled cars with whatever seats are certified/approved for sale in this country! Perhaps the folks at Suncoast know the answer already since a least one US 991 owner must have tried to get these 'new' gt2 seats ordered and installed here in the States!

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