jcannon

One day we all will look back and say Dang I should have bought it at 210. Some of us already saying Dang I should have bought 1 a few years back. IMO these Touring most likely going to be the next 997 4.0 RS.

itrsteve

Anecdotally, it seems like that gap between no-wing and wing has closed a bit this past year. It will always be there, but it seemed to get nuts at the peak of hysteria.

I've never been a touring guy myself; however, this is a really cool sleeper/stripper spec. Also, I've always thought the sofas were a fitting seat in a touring (makes me cry seeing them in a RS though).

Mrrdstr

Bullish opinion I like it 👍

rk-d

Strong words, but I don't really agree if only because the Touring doesn't have a bespoke engine or mechanicals. I think the 4.0 RS is going for up to $800k. No way the Touring touches that. I do think it will continue to do well and hold value above and beyond any other car in the 991.2 generation shy of the GT2RS.

That said, the price I paid a year ago for my car would probably be considered below market value now, whereas it was on the high end of fair market value a year ago.

jcannon

Agreed. No one knows where our **** will land if I take a dump at the beach today. But time will tell for sure. Each day passes by there will be less and less Touring and with Porsche going more and more electronics and more EV........ The 991 generation for sure will be the last analog.

Gbos1

Exactly why I went with a 991.2. vs 992. Drive the 992 but way too Digital and felt bigger.

John D II

My take on FAL: The functional importance probably depends on where you live and how you use the car. Maybe the majority of people really require it, but that's not my experience. I have a turbo S with FAL and have only used it two or three times in years and not sure I really even needed to. My RS has no FAL, which I like due to simplicity and less weight, but that's me. The car is mostly a weekend special for me - mountain drives and back roads in New England. Also, many track people prefer a car without FAL. When I think about this aspect of my RS, I like the fact that I don't have it and the car is lighter and more pure. It seems on Rennlist it's a big talking point for re-sale, but in the actual re-sale market, I don't think it's as important as Rennlisters make it out to be. Anyhow, I'm feeling good with no FAL :-) I think it's more RS, especially lightweight Weissach in nature.

Manifold

On the GT cars, I need FAL. On the 992 Turbo S, I don't need FAL, but I put the car in Normal mode in order to move the front splitter up when I'm concerned about scraping.

rk-d

You're right in that the market is speaking - and it doesn't give a sh*t

It's definitely a need for me - I didn't have one on my Turbo S and I did fine, but my GT3 would get jacked up very quickly if I didn't have it.

rk-d

I haven't driven a 992 GT3. I've owned two 992 models and both definitely were more digital and felt bigger, no question.

I'm almost avoiding driving a 992 GT3 because I don't want to have an FOMO about it - I'm intrigued by the double wishbone and mythical "turn in" that is practically becoming a meme with that car. Otherwise, there is nothing else about it that draws me in.

Rod27

Turbo ride height is higher than RS I’m guessing

ParadiseGT3

To the extent you do have to still drive the 991.2 gen like a 911 when pushing it, accounting for and keeping weight over the front axle, not an experiential downside to me. It's something to learn and perfect. If you remove that variable, then you'd have a car that basically sticks without fail front & rear.

Similarly, if M or AMG offered a car with perfect rear traction, I'd have no interest. You're talking about taking away the fundamental handling balance of the car.

rk-d

Interesting.

What I like about the GT3 (compared to the 992TTS that it replaced) is that it has that traditional 911 feel.

ParadiseGT3

Right, it's a (minor...) handling imperfection to learn, come to grips with. 991.2 is already almost a cheater car with unrivaled rear traction and substantially less understeer than prior gens. Even more compliant 992 front end doesn't really draw me in.

Wouldn't say it's a zero sum situation between performance engineering advancement and character, but at some point as you evolve toward perfect performance you lose engagement, imo. You can only be wowed by performance for performance's sake for so long. In the case of my Tesla's acceleration, for example, that lasted for like 2 days. Not to say the 992's front end is like Tesla acceleration, but I've never been on board with the idea that the 991.2 front axle was some great flaw that needed to be engineered away, made more perfect. Especially if we're talking about street use.

solidwater

Anyone know anything about this Maritime GT3 in Cali? Apparently was owned by a collector, but since it was modified (roll cage, suspension, but not sure exactly what) they won't CPO it.

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