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Old 02-08-2024, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 911-AL
I just listed my Irish Green GT3 in the classifieds. PM me if interested.

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1396142
Hi, I'm looking at selling my pts gt3 soon, curious to learn your thought about the strong pricing. Feel free to pm if that's the better channel
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Old 02-08-2024, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Yc911Kid
can't beat a clean white gt3!
Even better* - a Chalk GT3


*In my opinion
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Old 02-08-2024, 08:46 PM
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As a prev owner of chalk I think white still has the edge

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Old 02-08-2024, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FourT6and2
When buying: Ohhhh high miles, better bring the price down.
When owning: They're meant to be driven!
When selling: Low miles, price is a steal!
Low miles are very desireable to me when shopping for pre-owned car. I like to start fresh and will gladly pay a premium for a low mileage example. I like to be the one that puts the miles on and cares for the car from basically a like new condition. I am ok knowing that my use will depreciate the value, I just like to start fresh and then enjoy a new car. I will drive it and care fot it very well. What I try to avoid is buying a used car with road rash, scratches on the interior, worn leather/seats, etc., as it is extremely difficult and very expensive to bring it back. If looking for an older generation, personally, I like the fact that many people don't drive them and preserve them for the next buyer. Those are the cars that interest me as a used buyer. Perfect example is the 991.2 GT3 RS. They don't make them anymore, so if you want a "new one", you have to search for the ultra low mileage examples. For buyers, it's great there are still many around. I consider most cars at or about 8k miles with ppf from day one, a pretty good bet to be a great example and those would be the cars that I would look at. I think many take this same approach.
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There’s a Miami blue nonWP gt3rs with 8k miles and $207k msrp asking $240k firm. Tuned, exhaust, steels, carbon buckets.

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Old 02-09-2024, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rod27
There’s a Miami blue nonWP gt3rs with 8k miles and $207k msrp asking $240k firm. Tuned, exhaust, steels, carbon buckets.
I wouldn’t touch an NA GT car that’s been tuned.
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Originally Posted by rk-d
That one did not ever catch buzz. Funny how some auctions go a little viral. There has been a run of high value Tourings and it might have been bad timing.

Car had OEM wheels included, but it was presented with Forgelines installed which I think was a mistake. Stripes were also under the PPF which may have been an issue for some.

I think most aftermarket wheels end up being a net negative to sales value, BBS may be the only possible exception to that rule.
Agreed. I'd bid on the previous Chalk GT3T back in Jan - and this one was a little, to me, mundane on the interior - and the side decals under the PPF looked like a headache to have removed and re-PPF'd. It'd also had also been striped front to rear and the pics presented weren't the 100% best, so was tough to tell if their removal adversely affected anything. Increase in BaT cap to $7500 also played a, albeit very small, factor (some of the PPF work / transport could have been covered by the extra $2500). Lastly, it'd been up in the NE and driven PA<->RI a few times - so uncertain road conditions it had seen. Sat on my hands on that one though still in the market!
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Old 02-09-2024, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
I wouldn’t touch an NA GT car that’s been tuned.
Why? A tune by Mengineering smooths out the torque range, optimizes to 93 fuel and if you have the full Dundon power kit, optimizes the improved air flow. I wouldn’t make that blank statement as there’s circumstances where it is possible in fact ideal to have it. I will personally tell you mine has it and would highly recommend if you have the Dundon setup. If not, then yes, not sure the benefit is really there.
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Originally Posted by Dguth
Why? A tune by Mengineering smooths out the torque range, optimizes to 93 fuel and if you have the full Dundon power kit, optimizes the improved air flow. I wouldn’t make that blank statement as there’s circumstances where it is possible in fact ideal to have it. I will personally tell you mine has it and would highly recommend if you have the Dundon setup. If not, then yes, not sure the benefit is really there.
I would be curious to know what gains you are seeing from the Dundon kit and tune? That's might be my next step.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by markk222
I would be curious to know what gains you are seeing from the Dundon kit and tune? That's might be my next step.
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I don’t have pre-post dynos but will explain the difference in driving dynamics. When I first installed the complete Dundon kit, which as you know is intake, TB, plenum and full exhaust. The car was definitely faster above 7k rpm yet between 3 to 5k and building in 2nd gear for example, it would bog, not really hesitate but power wasn’t linear vs stock. Fast forward I did the Mengineering tune which optimizes the Dundon setup in addition to PDK tune. The car is now night and day different. The old torque curve power is back in the 3 to 5k, above 5k it accelerates to 9k amazingly and I truly enjoy the PDK in just normal mode. It no longer rushes to get out of 1st or 2nd gear but with slight throttle input holds those gears longer. It makes daily driving much more fun around town. In the mountains and on the track, it really opens up and pulls away from other RS or GT cars. I should have done the tune 2 years ago when I did the Dundon install. I still change my oil every 3,500 miles, plugs every 8k and do Blackstone analysis everytime. Internal engine wear is perfect.
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Old 02-09-2024, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dguth
Why? A tune by Mengineering smooths out the torque range, optimizes to 93 fuel ...
Lots of states are 91-only (CA famously). Also, warranty might be impacted?
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Dguth, Are you using 0w-40 or 5w-40?
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Dguth, Are you using 0w-40 or 5w-40?
I use Amsoil 5w40
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Originally Posted by Dguth
Why? A tune by Mengineering smooths out the torque range, optimizes to 93 fuel and if you have the full Dundon power kit, optimizes the improved air flow. I wouldn’t make that blank statement as there’s circumstances where it is possible in fact ideal to have it. I will personally tell you mine has it and would highly recommend if you have the Dundon setup. If not, then yes, not sure the benefit is really there.
Because there are already enough concerns with these expensive engines failing, and I don't want an engine which is potentially at higher risk of failing because a tuner tried to squeeze more out of it. If there was more that could safely be squeezed out of the engine, Porsche would have already done it. Tuners aren't better engineers than Porsche's engineers.

A tune may also void the warranty, if the car has one.

Also, if an engine has been tuned, you don't know the history of the tuning, and it's possible previous tune was more aggressive than the current tune.

I absolutely wouldn't touch a tuned NA GT car.
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Old 02-09-2024, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Because there are already enough concerns with these expensive engines failing, and I don't want an engine which is potentially at higher risk of failing because a tuner tried to squeeze more out of it. If there was more that could safely be squeezed out of the engine, Porsche would have already done it. Tuners aren't better engineers than Porsche's engineers.

A tune may also void the warranty, if the car has one.

Also, if an engine has been tuned, you don't know the history of the tuning, and it's possible previous tune was more aggressive than the current tune.

I absolutely wouldn't touch a tuned NA GT car.
Completely agree
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