freedman

In the current market, that looks like a bargain

Nate2046

Good eye, you're right it is the same car, didn't realize it until you pointed it out.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...e-1989/3663254

They're asking 3k above the private sellers asking price. It's a gorgeous car but way more than I'm willing to spend on a miled up, GR, C4. I suppose the miles don't really bother me, given the condition, but I just don't see that as a 38k car. I don't know, maybe I'm out of touch/kidding myself??

bigunit_271078

Thing is its had a top end rebuild and if the history is what I think it is I actually think this car has had a lot of money spent on it. It's top end money no doubt but ask anyone here who has paid less and then spent £5-10k enhancing / upgrading them to their level of OCD it's almost a zero sum game. I would not worry about the mileage or do what jzm do and replace it with a new odometer and say its "30k miles.....since rebuild" lol

Nate2046

Yeah, that ones torturing me a bit. Obviously has a huge upside if it only needs cosmetics. If I had the resources I had in the US (garage, lots of tools, etc) I'd consider it more strongly. Given my situation here I should really only be looking at 'done' cars.

I hope it doesn't sound like I'm shooting down every car you guys are suggesting. I'm not. I'm considering each of them and appreciate the help immensely

Andy Roe

From what I have read, be careful with Hendon Way Motors...
http://reallymeansounds.com/forum/th...motors.137082/

I'm sure some of the London guys will be able to point you in the direction of dealers that are to be trusted. Maybe it's even worth asking them to source a car for you? Maybe Phil Raby or someone offering a similar service could help you secure a good car?

Nate2046

Good advice. I've been in touch with RPM Technik and they have an inbound potential. May reach out to Raby as well.

You're not the first to warn me about HWM, which is a bit hard to reconcile and disappointing at the same time. When you look at their stock; Carrera RS, Ferrari Daytona, etc, its hard not to be a little 'star struck.' That, coupled with their history makes me think that the owner or owners must be genuine enthusiasts. Perhaps the complaints are generated by people like us who are at the absolute bottom of their spectrum of buyers. Its not like they treated me rudely but rather with an air of indifference. I worked in sales at a large dealership when I was in college and can tell you unequivocally that I would have been fired on the spot for letting a customer like myself walk out without a deal. Here's me -> No spousal approval required, no financing issues, checkbook in pocket, ready to make a deal on a car that I had an appointment to see but you sent out for service. Really!?
Like I said, nothing shady there, just monumentally stupid. Even the cheapest car on a dealers lot is an expense. I do wonder if the owner keeps on top of how hard his staff are working.

Crystal Cranks

The possible reason "some" dealers "have the car out for service" is they don't have the car at all, just a few photo's hastily taken with their dealer plates attached with handy quick clips (look closely).
All done by contacting a private seller saying they have a buyer for their car bring it down to them, only for the phantom buyer not to show up, but not before the car can be whipped around the corner for a few photos (funny how cars are never photographed outside or inside their showroom.)

In a case like this I would contact the last private advert contact details, chances are they still have the car.

BLACK-BETTY

This /\ agree whole heartedly.

This. Be prepared to pay for it. It'll cost you more in the long one if you don't buy a 'done' one, as Andrew says above.

And this. Call the number from the original ad as pointed out by BigUnit they're the same car.

boxsey911

Looks like the white C2 near me has been snapped up because it's no longer listed on PH.

Rabs

If that's the one listed in Avon I looked at that last year when advertised locally. I live a few miles away. It was more then cosmetics some of the rust I nearly put my fingers through poking about. It was cheaper than now advertised and I walked away within 15 minutes telling him I really didn't need that sort of project. Unless you are ready to do some serious surgery I would stay well clear. PM me if you want any more info. Good luck with your search.

MisterJD

Saw this listed on pistonheads at lunchtime via an alert, appears it was sold by mid-afternoon

http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail...he_964&id=2206

In this market it looked decent value, very few examples that colour

Lemass Automotive

A customer who just bought the red "garage find" on eBay was about to guy look at this when it was with the previous owner. He was too slow and it sold for £23k. This was 10 days ago!!!

Jamie Summers

Wow, the early 90s really does have something to answer for when it comes to interior colours !!!!!!

jevvy964

This one seems reasonable - no details tho:



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-K-POR...item339eab7fed

Similar to the recent PH car but more miles. What was the PH car on at?

boxsey911

Same dealer as above has this white C2 up for just shy of £50K!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...--1990/3766319