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Do we really have to go over this again?
Is that clear yet?
Originally Posted by GregBBRD
When I joined Rennlist, the moderators would never have allowed post #108...instantly gone! No dumpster fire would have even started!
The last time we had a member who was the center of many dumpster fires who also threatened litigation, John D banned him, his brother, and some of his friends immediately.
Let that sink in when you are trying to compare today's Rennlist to the forum of years gone by.
I guarantee you if John D had never sold Rennlist you never would have been allowed to be a vendor in the first place and if your antics were still similar to how you post today, you would have been banned over a decade ago (long before I was a moderator).
So now you want me to believe Gretch (who was in charge before me) would of had your back? Are you serious? He wiped his hands clean of the 928 forum after I refused to ban you!!!!! He told me I was on my own with this mess.
The only three people who've moderated the 928 forum are Randy V, Gretch, and myself. You think Randy would stick his neck out for you anymore?
Funny thing about the internet, it doesn't forget. Even the posts you've deleted and edited, are still there in full view for those of us with the ability to see such things.
Originally Posted by GregBBRD
And then, after this, made it his life's goal to get ME banned.
If you are referring to me, hate to burst your bubble in this thread yet again. I have many life goals, and not one of them involves you in any way shape or form.
Another newsflash for you, as Admin of the site, I can ban you, it's the click of a button. So if your "theory" were true, you'd be banned. It's that simple.
You've turned against so many people in this community and here you try to blame me for it.
Time to find another scapegoat for your issues here.
Its really hard for me to keep silent while respecting people that I have known a long time,
and have a deep respect for their wisdom and spirit.
This includes everyone that is able to read my words.
Right now our human environment has been steadily devolving into creating line after line of division .
I don't know if these keyboards are to blame,
as its really easy to let instant emotion run amok inside our increasingly divisive minds.
The end result is that disharmony and discourse are pervasive at every stroke of the finger.
What we as Humans need to know is that, divided we are weak .
( NOTE That is a goal for those that help with the spread of discord, to create in us a weakness.)
Please lets each and every one of us take a few moments and consider ways to find goodness in our fellow man,
before sending out your typed thoughts.
These typed out thoughts will remain forever a footprint of our own journeys through life.
NOTE Leaving a trail of peace and goodwill will bring many to your words.
This will create a harmonious path so others can follow along with your inspiration.
Find a path to kindness and nurture your relationships.
Merlin !
Well said. I think we are all human and it is very easy to send a message that comes off wrong, here or anywhere in life. One thing that I find really helps me is to read my messages, emails, and texts before sending them. Often times I see the issues and edit before sending or posting. The tone is much harder to control when you are not speaking with a person face to face.
Such is our digital age, I see it in my kids and it is really scary. We are losing compassion/respect and the ability to effectively communicate with other humans.
The last time we had a member who was the center of many dumpster fires who also threatened litigation, John D banned him, his brother, and some of his friends immediately.
Let that sink in when you are trying to compare today's Rennlist to the forum of years gone by.
I guarantee you if John D had never sold Rennlist you never would have been allowed to be a vendor in the first place and if your antics were still similar to how you post today, you would have been banned over a decade ago (long before I was a moderator).
So now you want me to believe Gretch (who was in charge before me) would of had your back? Are you serious? He wiped his hands clean of the 928 forum after I refused to ban you!!!!! He told me I was on my own with this mess.
The only three people who've moderated the 928 forum are Randy V, Gretch, and myself. You think Randy would stick his neck out for you anymore?
Funny thing about the internet, it doesn't forget. Even the posts you've deleted and edited, are still there in full view for those of us with the ability to see such things.
If you are referring to me, hate to burst your bubble in this thread yet again. I have many life goals, and not one of them involves you in any way shape or form.
Another newsflash for you, as Admin of the site, I can ban you, it's the click of a button. So if your "theory" were true, you'd be banned. It's that simple.
You've turned against so many people in this community and here you try to blame me for it.
Time to find another scapegoat for your issues here.
All that is great! I completely understand your words...always have.
I just don't understand your function, here.....even remotely understand.
Rennlist has, clearly degraded during your "ownership". Many of the very technical people have been "chased" away and the post counts are quite dismal, from the past.
When people begin to trash threads, with personal attacks, seems like that is when a moderator used to step in, instead of sitting back and seemingly enjoy "feeding the fire".
Randy and I got along very well. (Perhaps he despised me, as you indicate, but kept this hidden, because I worked on his car?) I really liked the guy. He was equal and fair, quick to judge and penalize for serious violations of "his rules". Primarily wanted Rennlist to be a discussion about 928's and any personal attacks were cleared up, instantly. If what was said was not "additive" to the actual thread, it was gone. (Clearly, ICS America's first post #26 would not have lasted for more than a few minutes. Nothing there to add to the thread, just attacking. Bigfoot would be long gone, as he never has anything positive to contribute, just loves to attack, first one vendor and now I'm apparently the next. The problem being that I've got a huge line of fantastic products, unmatched in the entire world.
Gretchen had some sort of a hidden agenda....promoting another entity or something else. We clearly did not "mix" well. People say: "Because this is the Internet and things get said/misunderstood and people are somewhat protected by distance, if we were all tossed into the same room, we would all be great buddies, because of our shared passion." I'd love to meet Gretchen in person, to see if this is true. I'm dubious, but time seems to heal things.
Dr. Bob (apparently not a moderator, at all, but some sort of sublevel assistant) was the best...ever. Eliminated all of the personal attacks, completely. Made it clear that Roger and I were not to comment or get involved with each other, ever. He said that whoever violated that agreement would be instantly banned. That held until Roger's "record setting" libelous attack on me, which you refused to edit or remove, much less enforce the "written and absolutely enforced" agreement.
That's when the "tide" really turned and I lost all respect for you. It has certainly gone downhill, since then, especially after your complete "inaction" over the attacks on me over the front suspension socket.
Dr. Bob was certainly involved in Rennlist's very best "era", with lots of good technical support, for the members, from very knowledgeable people.
You....you are quick to blame me for the "dumpster fire, when in reality, if you did not allow the personal attacks/worthless snide remarks, I would not need to defend myself and my reputation.
There wouldn't even be a dumpster, much less a fire.
If you want Rennlist to be a better place, perhaps that is best served by banning me.....your choice.
15,000+ posts, mostly helping people solve problems with their 928's, and a few conflicts, instigated by personal attacks by others. Every single conflict comes from the same thing!
Conversely, if you'd not allow the personal attacks to ever begin, that would really solve the issues.
Here's what the rules should be and should be enforced, consistently:"If you don't have anything positive to add or something relating to the subject of the thread, your post will be removed. Discussion and debate encouraged, back and forth, between members. Must be a civil exchange or it will be edited or removed. Any personal attack on an individual or business/snide remark will result in an instant "vacation."
You go back/do this and Rennlist can grow back to its' previous glory....
Great exchanges of ideas and help for all 928 owners.
Anytime I need to solve a problem or understand an issue as it relates to a 928 I use my google search hyperlink for this forum and add Greg Brown and the topic and hit enter.
What I get back is pretty much every thing I need to know about the topic. If not, I post a question to the group.
Name one other poster that has earned that? Certainly not me.
So, while there are monkeys slinging poop here consider this:
What if GB could remove every post he's made on RL? (I know somebody that did just that. I lament the loss of his knowledge.)
What exactly would remain?
In my estimation not much.
Do I wish he wasn't so thin skinned? Yes.
Do I wish people would just forgive him his faults? Hell yes.
We all have an eccentric relative. Well that's how I think of Greg. Eccentric but very knowledgeable.
Last edited by Kevin in Atlanta; 11-28-2023 at 07:26 PM.
Signs You’re In A Toxic Relationship And Need To Let Go
Your S.O. always finds something wrong with you
They strip away your self esteem
There's a clear imbalance of power
They’re controlling and excessively jealous
You keep waiting/hoping for them to change
You feel very insecure
Your S.O. never takes responsibility
Your partner is constantly stonewalling you
Your family and friends are concerned
You don’t have the type of trust you should have
You often feel worse when you’re with them
You feel drained
Your partner is always offering "constructive criticism"…even when you don’t ask
You don’t feel like yourself around them
They don’t bring out the best in you
You don’t have a positive feeling about the future
They like to play games
They’re always blaming other people for their problems
Your S.O. is super competitive with you
You feel like you do all the work in your relationship
You’re always making excuses for their bad behavior
The relationship is borderline abusive
Remind me...who is the one throwing gas on the fire?
The word "moderate" Is the base word for "moderator".
As long as you need to look things up in a dictionary, you might want to look that up and take a good hard look at what you post.
Like I've said, many times, I don't understand your job....or how you approach it.
You might want to actually read my post above.
Greg, you wrote the last paragraph on all your posts as:
Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023. The days of free technical advice are over. Free consultations will no longer be available. Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions. Have fun with your 928's people!
if you did as you typed above, threads would not go off on tangents and make for very hard reading in the years to come when people search for information on this site
It gets old and tiring when some vendors and their fanbase feel the need to take over and dominate so many threads to the point of exhaustion that folks give up and stop posting.
Yep. I've added people to my ignore list for the first time in over a decade.
11-28-2023, 12:49 PM
