Bill Ball

Hey, whose kit is that?? I have not seen a dual intake other than DR's. Looks like an early DR protoype, but not really.

Bill Ball

Foiled a bit tonight. I had my oil filler more or less planned. Andy's original had a lumen so small it took 10 minutes per quart to do an oil change. Note the small orifice pipe on the filler top-plate in the first shot. Here's a mock-up of the proposed plumbing. The 90 degree end lying flat would be turned down through a new hole in the filler top-plate. The capped top part would end up shorter than shown so it would clear the hood.





BUT, problems arose when I checked the inter-cooler. Andy has the water inlet on the same side as my filler.



So, plan B: Put the filler on the other side where I thought the water inlet hose would surely go. Also, I will have to include a hose as it cannot be soldered together and installed with the bridge in the way.

Louie928

Bill,
That IC water inlet goes in the rear, not the front. I think you have the bottom part of the intake manifold turned 180 deg.

AO

Louie, I think it's right... my inlet is in the front and the outlet is in the rear.

Darien

Hmmm, we might need to discuss this issue because I was led to believe that the inlet was supposed to be from the rear (i.e., coming directly from the reservoir) then out the front to the radiator(HE)?? What are the end results if they are routed backwards??

AO

Oh BOY...

There are two schools of thought on this.

1. You take water from the reservoir, pass it through the ICer and then use the heat exchanger to cool it before returning back to the reservoir. The idea is that you are replenishing your reservoir with "cooled" water, thus minimizing the heat build-up in the reservoir.

2. Take the water from the reservoir, pass it through the heat exchanger just before it passes through the ICer. The idea here is that if you HE can keep up with it, you have an unlimited amount of ICer medium (water). However, your reservoir may tend to warm up.

One of these days, I should hook up my data logger to see what the temp differential is between the inlet and outlet side of the HE, and the ICer. Hmmmm.....

Bill Ball

I will check this over, but it appears certain the manifold is not symmetric and cannot be turned 180 degrees. The top has a cut-out near the rear end for the up-facing water outlet. The top can't be reoriented because of the blow-off valve cut-out back there as well as the SC location towards the rear.

However, Andy did actually provide a cut-out in the rear that appears might accomodate the inlet. It's blocked off. If so, I would need to cut out a new outlet on the top near the front.

Louie928

Hi Bill,
I may be wrong on all this, and I sure can't remember which is inlet and which is outlet. Also there could be a difference between Eaton and TS manifolds. On both of Jim's TS intercooled maniflolds there is a water connection just like you showed in the pictures in the rear. There is another connection that comes up vertically through the manifold beside the drive snout. Neither of these interfere with the oil filler plate. I ran the breather tube out under the coolant bridge on the left side. I made an oil filler in one of the cam cover vents.

pmotts

My inlet/outlets are-
1 on the top, front of the manifold just in front of the SC and 1 at the rear of the intercooler. I have not seen one routed out the front of the intercooler the way you are showing, Bill. I'm not saying that's wrong, just never seen it done that way.
Cheers,
Jim

Bill Ball

OK. let me check this again. Regardless, I take the inlet to be the lowest, in this horizontal tube shown, and the outlet to be the tube that exits the top (whether front or rear). If you reverse that, the IC might not fill all the way. That's my reasoning.

Darien

That's what Andy told me when Tony and I were installing mine

I'll try to get a photo of how Tony routed the tubing coming from the vertical outlet end.

Bill Ball

I believe the discrepancy between our IC setups is that I have a Jag/Eaton. You can see from these pictures I have no choice. The top plate is the original one. Andy "upgraded" me later to the IC bottom.

Imo000

What a bargain.

Tony

Bill, you dont need a fancy filler cap on your breather system. Im in the midst of redoing mine also. Every time ive changed the oil or have had to add oil, i simply pull one of the breather lines off a cam cover...stick a small funnel in the line and add the oil. Reattach when done. The oil obviously flows down into the pan from that point in the head.

IRRC thats how we did it on Dariens car.

Bill Ball

You're a damn genius. You keep it simple.