Spyder RS driving/ownership impressions
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Maybe you meant to say set up to be “less quick.” That’s what I’ve heard all the reviewers say that discussed the topic. To avoid being jittery / tram-line less / flow more.
Of course, steering feel is super subjective, and one person's jittery is another person’s perfection. Is that something that is (easily) tweekable? I don’t recall it being discussed as a mod. Is it something the aftermarket supports?
Of course, steering feel is super subjective, and one person's jittery is another person’s perfection. Is that something that is (easily) tweekable? I don’t recall it being discussed as a mod. Is it something the aftermarket supports?
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The Gt4rs doesn’t tramline and isn’t jittery imo. It feels heavy and inert until you provide sufficient input.
The spyder rs feels like it is a bit more athletic and it flows much better, which I suspect is a combination of the suspension and steering calibration combined with slightly reduced weight. Probably equal parts reality and perception.
This is steering and suspension feel. Drivetrain feel is identical
The spyder rs feels like it is a bit more athletic and it flows much better, which I suspect is a combination of the suspension and steering calibration combined with slightly reduced weight. Probably equal parts reality and perception.
This is steering and suspension feel. Drivetrain feel is identical
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The Gt4rs doesn’t tramline and isn’t jittery imo. It feels heavy and inert until you provide sufficient input.
The spyder rs feels like it is a bit more athletic and it flows much better, which I suspect is a combination of the suspension and steering calibration combined with slightly reduced weight. Probably equal parts reality and perception.
This is steering and suspension feel. Drivetrain feel is identical
The spyder rs feels like it is a bit more athletic and it flows much better, which I suspect is a combination of the suspension and steering calibration combined with slightly reduced weight. Probably equal parts reality and perception.
This is steering and suspension feel. Drivetrain feel is identical
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It seems like SRS is setup to be faster though? they both start at around 17:1, but SRS go to 11 vs 4RS’s 12
Maybe you meant to say set up to be “less quick.” That’s what I’ve heard all the reviewers say that discussed the topic. To avoid being jittery / tram-line less / flow more.
Of course, steering feel is super subjective, and one person's jittery is another person’s perfection. Is that something that is (easily) tweekable? I don’t recall it being discussed as a mod. Is it something the aftermarket supports?
Of course, steering feel is super subjective, and one person's jittery is another person’s perfection. Is that something that is (easily) tweekable? I don’t recall it being discussed as a mod. Is it something the aftermarket supports?
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Just picked up yesterday at PEC Atlanta.
Initial impressions are what a sweet little car. I will disagree that it is loud. It is not loud at all. It is actually kind of quiet. Certainly quieter than GT4 RS in the cabin with the top closed. With top open is not loud at all. Drove my car without top on highway keeping below 5000 rpm. But trashed PEC’s own SRS for delivery drive at their little track with top on. It is important to disclose that my 991.2 GT3 has akrapovic race headers with link pipe and race slip on and my 993 has fabspeed x-pipe with Fister stage III. So maybe I am a little biased. But I wanted a car that was as subdued as possible. Thus the color and spec. I am so happy it is where it is as far as noise and also so stealthy and kind of boring with everything kind of blending in.
I can understand the statement it feels “slow.” Driving it under 5000 rpm on highway feels slow. I think it is because it is soft, responsive, nimble. Soft but planted, not a boat. I absolutely love it for the purpose. So when I drive my GT3 that has pretty much same engine, it feels faster, but it is just that it is raw, rough, hard. It is far from a cruiser, just a well sorted suspension for the purpose.
It will never be a track car (thus the sofas for me) and I think there are much better cars for that. But I can say it was quite fun to drive at high revs on their little track, which is the band this engine comes alive. I do not agree that you can lose the rear easily. It is very balanced. Again, maybe I am biased by the siblings.
The interior is great. I was very concerned about all the chatter on alcantara. It feels just right. I think leather will take it too much to the other side. It deserves the sporty feel. The car is just the right size and so is interior. Does not feel tight at all.
I have ceramics and feels, as expected, like the ceramics I had on GT3 prior to switching to AP racing. It was not as nice to modulate as AP racing on track, not same grab, but brakes well, maybe because of weight. But I will not be using on track. So all I care about is no brake dust!
Whoever is complaining about the top is out of their mind. It is so easy to put on and take out. It is easily done by one person. In fact, I felt I did it faster by myself.
Obviously that is a 1-day observation. Maybe I am still in honeymoon phase and I am sure the complaints will come. But, lord, what a great car.
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@aalencar Congrats on the pick-up!
The paint colour, the exterior shot of the hood, it looks almost like a deep metallic green?
The paint colour, the exterior shot of the hood, it looks almost like a deep metallic green?
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Just picked up yesterday at PEC Atlanta.
Initial impressions are what a sweet little car. I will disagree that it is loud. It is not loud at all. It is actually kind of quiet. Certainly quieter than GT4 RS in the cabin with the top closed. With top open is not loud at all. Drove my car without top on highway keeping below 5000 rpm. But trashed PEC’s own SRS for delivery drive at their little track with top on. It is important to disclose that my 991.2 GT3 has akrapovic race headers with link pipe and race slip on and my 993 has fabspeed x-pipe with Fister stage III. So maybe I am a little biased. But I wanted a car that was as subdued as possible. Thus the color and spec. I am so happy it is where it is as far as noise and also so stealthy and kind of boring with everything kind of blending in.
I can understand the statement it feels “slow.” Driving it under 5000 rpm on highway feels slow. I think it is because it is soft, responsive, nimble. Soft but planted, not a boat. I absolutely love it for the purpose. So when I drive my GT3 that has pretty much same engine, it feels faster, but it is just that it is raw, rough, hard. It is far from a cruiser, just a well sorted suspension for the purpose.
It will never be a track car (thus the sofas for me) and I think there are much better cars for that. But I can say it was quite fun to drive at high revs on their little track, which is the band this engine comes alive. I do not agree that you can lose the rear easily. It is very balanced. Again, maybe I am biased by the siblings.
The interior is great. I was very concerned about all the chatter on alcantara. It feels just right. I think leather will take it too much to the other side. It deserves the sporty feel. The car is just the right size and so is interior. Does not feel tight at all.
I have ceramics and feels, as expected, like the ceramics I had on GT3 prior to switching to AP racing. It was not as nice to modulate as AP racing on track, not same grab, but brakes well, maybe because of weight. But I will not be using on track. So all I care about is no brake dust!
Whoever is complaining about the top is out of their mind. It is so easy to put on and take out. It is easily done by one person. In fact, I felt I did it faster by myself.
Obviously that is a 1-day observation. Maybe I am still in honeymoon phase and I am sure the complaints will come. But, lord, what a great car.
One thing I will comment on for the benefit of others is that respectfully say that the Spyder RS certainly is “loud.” I have 1,700 miles on mine and therefore have plentiful post-break-in experience. Just wait until you give it more than 50% throttle and 80-100% throttle. It’s quiet if you want it to be, yes. But if you need to accelerate hard, or want to accelerate hard, a slide trombone playing directly into your ear would be quieter than the Spyder RS. At 5,000 RPMs and 80-100% throttle, the decibel level is off the meter. And the sound of the engine and intake is literally right behind the left ear. I honestly don’t think there’s a single car produced today that has a louder setup in stock form; if there is, I’d like to know which car it is. I have an R8 Spyder which seems nearly silent compared to this car; so does C8 Z06 Corvette — and these are not known to be soft or quiet engines. When I was enjoying the RS without ear plugs, wanting to soak in all the soul and purpose of the car, I can say candidly I developed a terrific headache which lasted overnight into the next day; and I allowed this to happen more than once. Ear plugs are a must, and I never grab the keys without them. Problem solved.
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Congratulations! Thanks for the writeup.
One thing I will comment on for the benefit of others is that respectfully say that the Spyder RS certainly is “loud.” I have 1,700 miles on mine and therefore have plentiful post-break-in experience. Just wait until you give it more than 50% throttle and 80-100% throttle. It’s quiet if you want it to be, yes. But if you need to accelerate hard, or want to accelerate hard, a slide trombone playing directly into your ear would be quieter than the Spyder RS. At 5,000 RPMs and 80-100% throttle, the decibel level is off the meter. And the sound of the engine and intake is literally right behind the left ear. I honestly don’t think there’s a single car produced today that has a louder setup in stock form; if there is, I’d like to know which car it is. I have an R8 Spyder which seems nearly silent compared to this car; so does C8 Z06 Corvette — and these are not known to be soft or quiet engines. When I was enjoying the RS without ear plugs, wanting to soak in all the soul and purpose of the car, I can say candidly I developed a terrific headache which lasted overnight into the next day; and I allowed this to happen more than once. Ear plugs are a must, and I never grab the keys without them. Problem solved.
One thing I will comment on for the benefit of others is that respectfully say that the Spyder RS certainly is “loud.” I have 1,700 miles on mine and therefore have plentiful post-break-in experience. Just wait until you give it more than 50% throttle and 80-100% throttle. It’s quiet if you want it to be, yes. But if you need to accelerate hard, or want to accelerate hard, a slide trombone playing directly into your ear would be quieter than the Spyder RS. At 5,000 RPMs and 80-100% throttle, the decibel level is off the meter. And the sound of the engine and intake is literally right behind the left ear. I honestly don’t think there’s a single car produced today that has a louder setup in stock form; if there is, I’d like to know which car it is. I have an R8 Spyder which seems nearly silent compared to this car; so does C8 Z06 Corvette — and these are not known to be soft or quiet engines. When I was enjoying the RS without ear plugs, wanting to soak in all the soul and purpose of the car, I can say candidly I developed a terrific headache which lasted overnight into the next day; and I allowed this to happen more than once. Ear plugs are a must, and I never grab the keys without them. Problem solved.
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(In my Boxster GTS 4.0, there is significant difference with sport exhaust. Same in my 991.2 Carrera S - even more of a difference. In my 2016 981 Spyder, not so much.)
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So, all I did so far was drive the PEC SRS for 2 hours at constant high rpm with top on then drive my own car for around 50 miles on highway with top off. Yes, it is indeed a different loud with the intake noise. But I did not feel uncomfortable at all.
But, again, I compare to my other cars that are real loud (turn off at drive thru to place order loud…). Reality is people will obviously have different thresholds. In the range you will spend a large proportion of your time, I felt it is really ok.
But, again, I compare to my other cars that are real loud (turn off at drive thru to place order loud…). Reality is people will obviously have different thresholds. In the range you will spend a large proportion of your time, I felt it is really ok.
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One thing I will comment on for the benefit of others is that respectfully say that the Spyder RS certainly is “loud.” I have 1,700 miles on mine and therefore have plentiful post-break-in experience. Just wait until you give it more than 50% throttle and 80-100% throttle. It’s quiet if you want it to be, yes. But if you need to accelerate hard, or want to accelerate hard, a slide trombone playing directly into your ear would be quieter than the Spyder RS. At 5,000 RPMs and 80-100% throttle, the decibel level is off the meter. And the sound of the engine and intake is literally right behind the left ear. I honestly don’t think there’s a single car produced today that has a louder setup in stock form; if there is, I’d like to know which car it is. I have an R8 Spyder which seems nearly silent compared to this car; so does C8 Z06 Corvette — and these are not known to be soft or quiet engines. When I was enjoying the RS without ear plugs, wanting to soak in all the soul and purpose of the car, I can say candidly I developed a terrific headache which lasted overnight into the next day; and I allowed this to happen more than once. Ear plugs are a must, and I never grab the keys without them. Problem solved.
5 weeks.
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I suppose sound pressure is subjective, but mine is loud, almost obnoxiously so. And the volume seems to outpace the performance. (compare to a 458 spider or CGT where the noise tracks exactly what the car is doing) I would prefer a quieter experience.
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