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Old 08-20-2024 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by saintlaurent
Obviously subjective but I can’t imagine you can hear the magnetic click noise over the intake noise. Paddles are fine but the tactile feeling of the GT3 RS takes the feel and experience very close to a manual IMHO. Not the same, but similar feeling, engaging gears.

I give all cars nicknames, the GT3 Touring is the Surgeon and the Spider RS is the Violin. It’s a musical instrument, not a car, every gear across the RPM produced slightly different mixes of intake and exhaust
I could hear the clear wind screen squeak when I installed it over the intake, I'm sure I would hear the clicking. Especially since I know it would be there. I usually shift by the gear lever, but in the mountains I use the paddles more. I have no need for the magnetic paddles. All subjective of course as there are many people that prefer those, just like many people prefer the look of the exposed carbon fiber of the WP. Stock paddles are no less enjoyable to me.
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Old 08-20-2024 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrift
Shifting using the gear lever is actually quite satisfying. It has a nice heft / feel.
I am interested in this for sure - I have used the lever a decent amount in the Spyder. The look and feel of it also give the interior an additional distinguishing factor on the RS.
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Old 08-20-2024 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by saintlaurent


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All in all the Spyder RS is the best balance between analog and modern. No stupid buttons on the wheel, no warnings about line departures or speed, it's just the driver and a magical theatrical car experience. I think this will go down as a legendary Porsche drivers car in history.
Excellent write up and beautiful spec.
I would just like to add no stupid auto start stop. 👍
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Old 08-20-2024 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Need detailed comparisons of 4RS and SRS from skilled drivers who have substantial seat time in both cars.
What do you need more than what has already been said in hundreds of post ?
4RS is mainly a track car, compared to SRS, the driving feeling is really quite the same except 4RS in "soft mode" is harder that SRS in "hard mode".
Then comes the roof...
If you own one, everything you need to know to understand the other is right up there.

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Old 08-20-2024 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GT Omologata
What do you need more than what has already been said in hundreds of post ?
4RS is mainly a track car, compared to SRS, the driving feeling is really quite the same except 4RS in "soft mode" is harder that SRS in "hard mode".
Then comes the roof...
How is the sound level of the SRS (roof off) vs the 4RS? Any difference in the programming of how much jolt there is on downshifts? How does the SRS cope with bumpy roads at normal and high speeds?
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Originally Posted by saintlaurent
Negatives?
Minors but still. Lack of Wireless CarPlay...
I fixed that with this:

https://www.carlinkitfactory.com/pro...-auto-adapter/

Works a treat:



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Old 08-20-2024 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mwar99
I usually shift by the gear lever, but in the mountains I use the paddles more.
Same here, and too much misspent time in karts means I naturally left foot brake with two pedals, so I'm not really missing the clutch pedal either. Then there is the more appropriate (shorter) gear ratios in the PDK...
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Originally Posted by Manifold
How is the sound level of the SRS (roof off) vs the 4RS?
Are you talking about the volume or the notes ? Speaking of volumes, both cars aren't for delicate ears.
Regarding the symphony I love both of them, they're rewarding but in a different manner, SRS you lose much of the 4RS intake sound behind your ears, (4RS is almost a sexual thing ) you feel the car breath, pant and puff, oh boy.
On the SRS you still hear the intake but it's mixed with the engine sound and exaust notes, moreover without the roof, going at speeds over 180kph (110mph) is a bit less than driving a bike, the engine volume isn't really your first problem.

Originally Posted by Manifold
Any difference in the programming of how much jolt there is on downshifts?
My feeling is the PDK of both cars has the same logic.

Originally Posted by Manifold
How does the SRS cope with bumpy roads at normal and high speeds?
difficult to speak knowingly without having experience on the same "bumpy", SRS it's indeed a more forgiving car on "civil" roads, and in the end you may enjoy more the ride at normal speeds than 4RS.

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Old 08-21-2024 | 04:37 PM
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The spyder rs damping is good enough for the spring rate. It doesn’t seem underdamped like the gt4rs did. I’m sure if I push it hard enough I will find the rear end is still a little unsettled but no where near the the gt4rs levels. It is absolutely sublime to drive. Perfect amount of intake noise, exhaust noise, etc. the 4L engine has enough power to break traction on the stock tires making it extremely playful. It’s perfect for a back roads weekend car.
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Old 08-22-2024 | 01:34 PM
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Sharing some pictures of my spec as some members requested. As I said in my previous post as well, I'm very happy with how it turned out. 3000km driven now with the Spyder RS, and it's been absolutely worry free. The roof is an absolute non-issue - there was some discussion about the circles on the fabric of the roof, but I don't have any on mine, and judging from videos of how people take it off, I wouldn't be surprised if it's from improperly storing the roof in the trunk. Very few people seem to do it correctly and make sure that it's rolled up properly..

Still rockin' the GT4RS front splitter as I haven't heard back from the dealer about new one arriving, but I like the look, so not in a hurry. Car gets ridiculous amounts of attention, and constantly (literally every drive) have people filming and taking photos when I drive which I'm not a fan of, but part and parcel of driving a car like this I guess. That's the main negative for me. Doesn't help that I'm using it for visiting clients, and running business errands, so I'm often in crowded places. Oh, and the sound definitely draws attention as well, I kind of hoped that valves closed it would have been quieter, so I could rev it out more, but valves seem to just take the boomyness away, which I appreciate as well, especially on highway, but the car is very loud if revved out even with the valves closed.

Speaking of sound, slight metallic rattle from what seems to be exhaust for a few seconds on cold-start... goes away after 2-3 seconds, but would prefer if it wasn't there at all. Would be curious to know if others have it as well or is it something that the dealer can get sorted.










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Old 08-22-2024 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark718
Speaking of sound, slight metallic rattle from what seems to be exhaust for a few seconds on cold-start... goes away after 2-3 seconds, but would prefer if it wasn't there at all. Would be curious to know if others have it as well or is it something that can dealer can get sorted.
Mine rattle on cold start too sometimes. Pretty loud for like 5 second then goes away.
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Old 08-22-2024 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark718
The roof is an absolute non-issue - there was some discussion about the circles on the fabric of the roof, but I don't have any on mine, and judging from videos of how people take it off, I wouldn't be surprised if it's from improperly storing the roof in the trunk. Very few people seem to do it correctly and make sure that it's rolled up
Congrats, stunning!

The roof circles are a symptom of the non-RS Spyder roof system. Concur the roof discussion overblown. Same thing on 987 Spyders, never met an owner of either who didn’t appreciate the roof system. Ability to run sun shade only is a great combo.

1600 miles here, it’s mind blowing.
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Old 08-27-2024 | 01:24 AM
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I picked up my vehicle last Wed in the middle or the work day and it was raining the next few days. Finally had an opportunity to drive it about 100 miles yesterday and wanted to post some initial impressions. Much of this is relative ot my 718 GT4 6MT:

- When I first got in at the dealership, it felt very familiar, but also a bit weird to not have the clutch on the left as I'm very used to it in my GT4, but quickly got accustomed to PDK (my wife's Macan GTS has PDK, although certainly not quite the same)
- Following the break-in procedure, so haven't pushed it too hard yet although a few times I did floor it up to 7k RPM getting onto the freeway
- Compared to my GT4, the SRS sounds much more raw not only due to the intakes by your ears, but also the engine itself as well as the sound of the PDK gear shifts
- PDK sport downshifts while braking I'm still getting used to and isn't a smooth slow down to a stop, a bit jerky when it downshifts, but sounds really cool
- The open top experience is very different than the GT4 and I'm quite enjoying it even as we head towards the end of summer
- Speaking of which, taking the top off wasn't a problem as I've seen various videos multiple times. The only thing I didn't get right the first time is packing it into the trunk area I had to make fine adjustments as the trunk wouldn't close a few times.
- My neighbors and family that I've taken on rides love it although my mom (who's turning 80 this year) says it's a bit loud lol
- There is drone between 2-3k rpm where the engine likes to sit around town
- The suspension is pretty much the GT4 suspension as I understand it so equally comfortable and some of my neighbors were surprised and expected it to be much harsher

Overall, very much enjoying it.
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Old 08-27-2024 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerhobo


I picked up my vehicle last Wed in the middle or the work day and it was raining the next few days. Finally had an opportunity to drive it about 100 miles yesterday and wanted to post some initial impressions. Much of this is relative ot my 718 GT4 6MT:

- When I first got in at the dealership, it felt very familiar, but also a bit weird to not have the clutch on the left as I'm very used to it in my GT4, but quickly got accustomed to PDK (my wife's Macan GTS has PDK, although certainly not quite the same)
- Following the break-in procedure, so haven't pushed it too hard yet although a few times I did floor it up to 7k RPM getting onto the freeway
- Compared to my GT4, the SRS sounds much more raw not only due to the intakes by your ears, but also the engine itself as well as the sound of the PDK gear shifts
- PDK sport downshifts while braking I'm still getting used to and isn't a smooth slow down to a stop, a bit jerky when it downshifts, but sounds really cool
- The open top experience is very different than the GT4 and I'm quite enjoying it even as we head towards the end of summer
- Speaking of which, taking the top off wasn't a problem as I've seen various videos multiple times. The only thing I didn't get right the first time is packing it into the trunk area I had to make fine adjustments as the trunk wouldn't close a few times.
- My neighbors and family that I've taken on rides love it although my mom (who's turning 80 this year) says it's a bit loud lol
- There is drone between 2-3k rpm where the engine likes to sit around town
- The suspension is pretty much the GT4 suspension as I understand it so equally comfortable and some of my neighbors were surprised and expected it to be much harsher

Overall, very much enjoying it.
@Pokerhobo
Congratulations! Thanks for the writeup.

Just a small token here. Regarding your comment about the jerkiness of deceleration to a stop: you may try leaving the car in manual mode as you slow down to a stop sign or a red light to prevent the car from shifting, and there’s an easy way to do this. As the RPMs fall to maybe 1800, you pull back both paddles simultaneously (and hold them there without release) which engages neutral; and then you allow the car to coast to a stop from a relatively low speed. Imagine all the downshifting that is avoided here — I engage this practice during every drive. I look at it as saving the transmission hundreds of downshifts per drive cycle and thus fending off excessive wear. I considered this especially important during the break-in cycle.

Note that on RS, you must hold both paddles to retain neutral gear; if you let go, the transmission re-engages gear, defeating the purpose of the sequence; so it’s best to maintain both paddles back until the car reaches a complete stop. This is to be contrasted with non-GT PDK cars (such as your wife’s Macan), which engages neutral when both paddles are pulled back and quickly released (gear is re-engaged only when upshift paddle is pulled back). I personally think it’s a bit annoying to have to hold the paddles there (I quite prefer the style of the non-GT PDK), but I tolerate it in the name of smooth deceleration and preventative maintenance of the transmission. It’s like driving a true manual: I don’t downshift through all the gears just to slow down to a stop - that’s excessive.
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
I personally think it’s a bit annoying to have to hold the paddles there (I quite prefer the style of the non-GT PDK), but I tolerate it in the name of smooth deceleration and preventative maintenance of the transmission. It’s like driving a true manual: I don’t downshift through all the gears just to slow down to a stop - that’s excessive.
This is so you can emulate a manual-style clutch kick in the PDK-S GT cars. Pull and hold to engage neutral, blip the throttle, and release to... do hoon ****.


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