SpyderSenseOC

I'm sure there are some folks who passed on allocations after the stop order was issued in Spring 2022. And I'm not 100% convinced yet that this is truly the end of the road.

jimdillard

LOL!!! Yes! What next...Michelin A/S 4's versus Michelin 4S's?? That'll keep us busy for a day or two!!

tigerhonaker

Adrift,

Your so right and it's just like the on going, never ending debates on Exhaust, Manual VS PDK, LWB VS 18-Way, Cup 2 VS A/S to name some examples.

And as I have said and suggested more than a few times ...............
It all comes down to the individual and their personal preference.
What's disappointing to me are the Hard-Core Rennlist members that their way is the Right-Way and in-fact the ONLY-CORRECT-WAY.

Stay safe guys,
Terry

BDonaher

I first read this as “they are shtttt” and was confused haha. But that is one hell of a spec. Very nice!

ok so bring this back to the thread. What are you seeing in the used market? I’ve only seen one real build with Carbon buckets and I can’t imagine paying a 20k premium for that… how is it stateside in terms of availability and premiums ?

Adrift

Superman stated the reason for LWBS preference perfectly. He was summarizing the reasons people that DO pick / prefer LWBS get them. That isn't the same thing as saying other preferences aren't more relevant for other people. This 4-alarm defense of non-LWBS is founded on a misinterpretation of the original statement.

tigerhonaker

Adrift,

Just like so many other comments on this internet site.

Terry

Clark_Kent

A user made a comment that they were surprised that not having the LWBS option would be a deal breaker for many and I provided a reasonable response as to why those individuals prefer the LWBS. You're taking my comment as an indictment on the 18-Ways. I don't care enough about the 18-Way seats to argue with you or anyone else about them.

And I absolutely have driven a Porsche equipped with 18-Way Adaptive Sport Seats Plus. I've driven a few actually which is why I said I'm familiar enough with them. And yes, it is my preference just like the 18-Ways are your preference. The LWBS aren't for everyone and neither are the 18-Ways. Having a choice is a beautiful thing, isn't it?

BDonaher

yep totally agree. My comment about being surprised wasn’t a knock on either of the options , was more a question as I’m new to this and this is my first foray into Porsche. The GT4 I ended up getting didn’t have buckets and that was never a make or break for me.

Choice is lovely! Just a shame allocations are so hard to come by that very few get them.

jimdillard

But wait...we can't just suddenly all agree! That won't work!

Adrift

I've been waiting to use this emoticon

Lucifer

There isn't, actually. Only about 40% of GT4 opted for the buckets, and about 25% of all Spyders.

Xxyion

Curious how much of this comes down to cost vs preference though. The cost of the LWBS is a tough pill to swallow and you can have a variety of other options for the same cost. While I do believe most people who purchase these cars could afford the extra cost, I wonder how many people would just rather spec a lot of other options and just have the sport seats. I think for a lot of people the buckets aren't a make or break for them and so it comes down to a cost vs value argument.

Curious how many people would spec the buckets if they were a no cost option.

SpyderSenseOC

I honestly don't think cost factors into it much at all. The 18 way seats are roughly 2500 bucks and the buckets add what, another 5800 or something? That's chump change when we are talking about a 125 or $130,000 car. I think most people who choose the buckets do so because of how they look and not how they perform. For me personally, I chose the 18 way for one simple reason. I need heated seats. They are good for my back and they make driving in cooler weather much more comfortable. If the buckets offered more adjustability and heat I would undoubtedly have chosen them because they look so damn cool.

jimdillard

You make a very good point on the heated seats. It amazes me how warm I can stay with the top down, windows up, and the heated seats and HEAT turned UP in my Spyder. It's really quite impressive.

Clark_Kent

Don't parse my words to fuel the fire. Go back, read the initial comment, and read my response. In the context of the initial comment and my subsequent responses, the word 'preference' means, if someone views not having LWBS as an option a deal breaker they clearly prefer it over other alternatives (Sport Seats Plus [2-way] vs. Adaptive Sport Seats Plus [18-way]). That's it, there's nothing to see here.