cafe_racer

Visual evidence of some stepping out in the wet.


Little bit of a poop in pants moment both times.

UncleDude

I’m sorry you pooed a bit lol…. wouldn’t most cars with 400-500hp do the same in those conditions?

cafe_racer

100% they would. Excluding maybe a 4wd

Whoopsy

Electronics turned off?

These moments are what makes a car 'raw' or not, and it's what separate men from the boys. They are called fun moments. A person with some skills could have held that tail sideways through the corner. Mid engine cars is famous for doing this, they love rotating, very unlike rear engine cars.

Seems like it's a very inexperienced driver with a ride along instructor. And with an inexperience driver, they can spin out even with a Miata.

cafe_racer

LOL, yep, my first time ever driving around a track, might not go out again, very scary!

Porsche2014

Oh, no, keep at it! Once you get a hang of it, you will drive within your own comfort zone on the track. Not everyone has to go 10/10ths to have (safe) fun, and 7-9/10ths in any P-car is a great, enjoyable experience.

James88

He's taking the **** 😅

matttheboatman

No wet track + smooth inputs + traction control on = NO chance of that happening again. Get back out there! and AVOID WET TRACKS. If you WANT to play with teetering at the edge of grip, do it it in a big empty parking lot!

IPSA

Can't see hands but car looks pointed left and should be pointed out toward track out.

Said otherwise your hands may have been too closed for that situation. Hands more open would have also helped with slide control i.e controlled drift.

KEEP AT IT...

Dorian C

I just find the 4RS story very fascinating and it deserves a lot of attention. Whether it is worth the premium is up to the beholder.

It is based on a 10 year old chassis, which goes back to the 997 era. They first put the 991 GT3 suspension and brakes on the car but with a base 991engine with some tweaks. Then they built a bespoke engine for the 718GT4. Then finally the 992.1gt3 engine. The tiny little chassis is old which retains the rawness when compared to the much more refined 992 having the same engine. And Porsche developed the 992 with the 4RS in mind as the last gt3 engine won’t fit. Lastly, it will be the final iteration of the NA mid engine pure ICE Porsche will ever produce. All of these just seem more interesting than adding double wishbone in the 992.1, which will be forgotten when 992.2 comes out. The story won’t trump the 997.2 RS 4.0 as the last manual RS but it will be close in the years to come. It is an interesting story that is worth telling. People will look back and say man I am glad Porsche made that before everything goes to shxt (EV).

daaa nope

This.

Yeah yeah yeah "but you learn a lot when driving in the wet" and it's true. But the risk is also a lot higher. Want to "learn in the wet"? Go to an autocross on a rainy day - PERFECT environment. Even better for a newbie.

But doing DE days? Keep it to the dry. But otherwise - GET BACK OUT THERE!

GrantG

I think it depends on the track - some are nearly as risk-free as a big parking lot. While it may be easier to lose control on a wet track, the lower speeds also help to mitigate the risk.

BTW, stay off the curbs and painted surfaces

usctrojanGT3

Yeah, stay away from tracks with lots of walls....lots of runoff FTW!

Whoopsy

Don't let that little moment scare you. Keep practicing and work on techniques.

On a less than dry track, smoothness of throttle input is key, gradually add throttle after the apex and don't jab at it.

And driving on a wet track is actually better for beginners as the speed will be lower than on dry tracks. The slippery surface won't hide mistakes and you will get the feedback sooner.

I also highly recommend you try to do the Porsche Ice Experience. You will learn quite a lot more about car control and car feedback. Speed will be very low on the ice track but the car motions will be the same, just things will be happening slower. The best part? The track will be surrounded by snow banks, you cannot do any damage to the cars even if you hit them.

Westcoast

I figured the best part at winter camp is that you are using 'their' cars!