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Old 12-07-2022, 05:18 PM
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Hey @Whoopsy , have you looked into those LWBS (front) risers that kick back the seat angle a bit? Might help. I got mine from Autoquest, and they don’t have an impact until you raise the seat. I assume the 918 has the same LWBS seat raise function as spyders / gt4s. You probably know all this already, but I thought I would check.
Old 12-07-2022, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Oh come on, we all friends here. We share the love of Porsches. Might have differences in personal taste on options but can still stay civilized.

Btw, I booked myself for more LWBS punishment next year. I will be driving the 918 from Vancouver to Monterey and back for Rennsport Reunion. I don't dislike the LWBS, but there is something better, and that is 18 way sofas, which I cannot get int the 918. Heck, if they tilt the seat back another 5-10 degrees it would have been more bearable in the 918.
All good!

May see you in Oliver at some point, was there this past summer for the Porsche Sports Cup Canada event and will be also driving the Spyder down to Monterey for RR7.
Old 12-07-2022, 05:44 PM
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Isn't the saying "there is an *** for every seat?"

My Porsche *** prefers:
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  • 18-ways in a daily/mileage eater like the 991 Turbo.
  • LWBS in a weekend fun car like a GT3/4/RS.
  • Full race buckets in a predominantly track car (my '01 996 Turbo).
If I planned on daily'ing my 4RS or putting 20K a year on it, I might have opted for the 18-ways, And while the 18-ways are better then the regular/sport Porsche seats at holding you in place with the adjustable bolsters, not even close to the 'retention' of the LWBS.... For me at least.

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Old 12-07-2022, 05:52 PM
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LOL. What passes for a heated argument among Canadians.

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Old 12-07-2022, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
Isn't the saying "there is an *** for every seat?"

My Porsche *** prefers:
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  • 18-ways in a daily/mileage eater like the 991 Turbo.
  • LWBS in a weekend fun car like a GT3/4/RS.
  • Full race buckets in a predominantly track car (my '01 996 Turbo).
If I planned on daily'ing my 4RS or putting 20K a year on it, I might have opted for the 18-ways, And while the 18-ways are better then the regular/sport Porsche seats at holding you in place with the adjustable bolsters, not even close to the 'retention' of the LWBS.... For me at least.
Quite spot on.

Old 12-07-2022, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrift
Hey @Whoopsy , have you looked into those LWBS (front) risers that kick back the seat angle a bit? Might help. I got mine from Autoquest, and they don’t have an impact until you raise the seat. I assume the 918 has the same LWBS seat raise function as spyders / gt4s. You probably know all this already, but I thought I would check.

Over the years, I have talked to Porsche about the seat angle thing. Actually MANY 918 owners have talked to them. Issue was lack of room inside the car hence why the seat is so upright, a trade off. Also mentioned about the shims trick. The main issue will be those 'mods' aren't safety tested, one has no idea how it's going to react in an accident.

If I do the mod and then got in an accident and the stud broke and the seat come loose, that's gonna be a bad one. The studs were designed to take horizontal shear load, not a diagonal load.

Oh, those stupid LWBS 'raise' function? It just keep jacking up the rear of the seat, not the front of the seat. Counterproductive. I keep my seats all the way down just to have a semi-comfortable angle.

If I am in 18-ways, I raise the front of the seat all the way up, the back of the seat all the way down, then adjust the back angle. Both the thigh and waist bolsters are also all the way in tight. That's my preferred seating position. Very secure even with 3-point as my butt has to fight against gravity in order to slide forward, but together with the left leg on the dead pedal, I am basically firmly installed in the seat, not moving fore and aft nor side to side.

Honestly, it's hard to believe why Porsche can't design a proper comfortable bucket. Ferrari's are top notch, super super comfortable. Heck, even the Mclaren 'cocoon' bucket is better than Porsche's.

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Old 12-08-2022, 03:37 AM
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Spoiler alert.
The EVO car of the year is...









NOT the GT4 RS.

Hard to fathom, but, there you go!
Old 12-08-2022, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JIMMY JAMES
Spoiler alert.
The EVO car of the year is...









NOT the GT4 RS.

Hard to fathom, but, there you go!
Some decent cars in the field e.g. Artura, 296GTB.............and wouldn't be surprised if they picked the GR86. There are so many of these awards now, they hardly matter, but are good for debate.

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Old 12-08-2022, 04:11 AM
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When you read it...don't get offended! lol. Just remember it is a ROAD test in the UK. There is NO TRACK element to the test. They have a separate test for track cars, which the 4RS will no doubt be part of.
Finally.... it is an RS car. AP told its was... and since 9x1 generation.. RS has come to mean primarily focused on TRACK experience and performance.

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Old 12-08-2022, 04:48 AM
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I can post the winner here but don't want to spoil it for people if they are waiting for a copy of the mag or the video.
Old 12-08-2022, 05:04 AM
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No need to do that - I've had sight of the copy since the weekend..so its getting around.
As has ben said - every publication has an end of year test and cars fare differently dependent on the test and the market, it'll all OPINION, but it's interesting for a debate.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMMY JAMES
Spoiler alert.
The EVO car of the year is...


NOT the GT4 RS.

Hard to fathom, but, there you go!
4RS is losing every magazine comparison



Old 12-08-2022, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMMY JAMES
Spoiler alert.
The EVO car of the year is...









NOT the GT4 RS.

Hard to fathom, but, there you go!
Expected that after their not so plaseant article in September. Had the impression they simply did't want to be predictable and decided to be overly critical. But let's see their reasoning...
Old 12-08-2022, 05:07 PM
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Noise, and comfort on anything but smooth pavement.
Old 12-08-2022, 05:10 PM
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As I said….

Originally Posted by TDT
Just remember it is a ROAD test in the UK. There is NO TRACK element to the test. They have a separate test for track cars, which the 4RS will no doubt be part of.
Finally.... it is an RS car. AP told its was... and since 9x1 generation.. RS has come to mean primarily focused on TRACK experience and performance.


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