718 GT4RS
11-09-2021, 02:54 PM
#3166
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11-09-2021, 03:28 PM
#3167
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Originally Posted by FogCitySF
Yeah that's what everyone keeps saying but that seems like an awful low volume for a two year production run. Where is this info coming from?
and a very connected VIP
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11-09-2021, 06:08 PM
#3169
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Originally Posted by BioBanker
All the dealers who want to maximize the ADMs are also saying it! Its gotta be true!!!
11-09-2021, 06:15 PM
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I get the feeling that more people would want a GT4RS at $150k MSRP + $50k ADM than would want one at $200k + $0 ADM.
11-09-2021, 07:23 PM
#3171
I may be in the minority on this, but I think the demand for the 4RS is going to be lower than people expect. Even if it's an awesome car, people need to remember that a stupid high percentage of the 3RS's are purchased by people who never go near the track and many probably will never even drive the car hard. They buy it because its the Big Bad, plain and simple. And we all know, no matter how Bad the 4RS is, it's still going to be the lesser child in a lot of Porschefile's eyes. And the fact is that most, not all but most, Cayman buyers aren't in the same price range as the typical GT3 buyer, so selling a $165k+ GT4 en masse is going to require GT3 buyers to step down to the 4RS.
I think there will be a group of die hards that'll do that and pay a premium for this car up front, but I think that group is smaller than people think. And I think if Porsche were to produce 4,000 of them, they'd struggle to sell all of them for what we all know will be a pretty high sticker.
I think there will be a group of die hards that'll do that and pay a premium for this car up front, but I think that group is smaller than people think. And I think if Porsche were to produce 4,000 of them, they'd struggle to sell all of them for what we all know will be a pretty high sticker.
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11-09-2021, 07:30 PM
#3172
I may be in the minority on this, but I think the demand for the 4RS is going to be lower than people expect. Even if it's an awesome car, people need to remember that a stupid high percentage of the 3RS's are purchased by people who never go near the track and many probably will never even drive the car hard. They buy it because its the Big Bad, plain and simple. And we all know, no matter how Bad the 4RS is, it's still going to be the lesser child in a lot of Porschefile's eyes. And the fact is that most, not all but most, Cayman buyers aren't in the same price range as the typical GT3 buyer, so selling a $165k+ GT4 en masse is going to require GT3 buyers to step down to the 4RS.
I think there will be a group of die hards that'll do that and pay a premium for this car up front, but I think that group is smaller than people think. And I think if Porsche were to produce 4,000 of them, they'd struggle to sell all of them for what we all know will be a pretty high sticker.
I think there will be a group of die hards that'll do that and pay a premium for this car up front, but I think that group is smaller than people think. And I think if Porsche were to produce 4,000 of them, they'd struggle to sell all of them for what we all know will be a pretty high sticker.
11-09-2021, 07:36 PM
#3173
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The thing with the GT4RS is that there is a sizable contingent of Porsche buyers who will just buy whatever GT car Porsche releases as a matter of course. First, you have the 918 VIPs. Then you have those folks who buy several Porsches a year just because. Then you have the price insensitive whales who will buy whatever it is at a substantial markup because there's hype around it. If there are only going to be around 1000 of these cars a year, there'll still be many more buyers than there are cars to sell.
There are about 200 Porsche dealerships in the US. Even if the US gets around 1000 cars, that's still only 5 cars per year for each dealer. Substract maybe 200 for the 918 VIP's, and now you're at maybe 4 cars per dealer per year.
Porsche hasn't even really met demand for regular GT4's. It ain't gonna be any better for the GT4RS.
There are about 200 Porsche dealerships in the US. Even if the US gets around 1000 cars, that's still only 5 cars per year for each dealer. Substract maybe 200 for the 918 VIP's, and now you're at maybe 4 cars per dealer per year.
Porsche hasn't even really met demand for regular GT4's. It ain't gonna be any better for the GT4RS.
11-09-2021, 07:57 PM
#3174
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I may be in the minority on this, but I think the demand for the 4RS is going to be lower than people expect. Even if it's an awesome car, people need to remember that a stupid high percentage of the 3RS's are purchased by people who never go near the track and many probably will never even drive the car hard. They buy it because its the Big Bad, plain and simple. And we all know, no matter how Bad the 4RS is, it's still going to be the lesser child in a lot of Porschefile's eyes. And the fact is that most, not all but most, Cayman buyers aren't in the same price range as the typical GT3 buyer, so selling a $165k+ GT4 en masse is going to require GT3 buyers to step down to the 4RS.
I think there will be a group of die hards that'll do that and pay a premium for this car up front, but I think that group is smaller than people think. And I think if Porsche were to produce 4,000 of them, they'd struggle to sell all of them for what we all know will be a pretty high sticker.
I think there will be a group of die hards that'll do that and pay a premium for this car up front, but I think that group is smaller than people think. And I think if Porsche were to produce 4,000 of them, they'd struggle to sell all of them for what we all know will be a pretty high sticker.
11-09-2021, 08:06 PM
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11-09-2021, 08:08 PM
#3176
The thing with the GT4RS is that there is a sizable contingent of Porsche buyers who will just buy whatever GT car Porsche releases as a matter of course. First, you have the 918 VIPs. Then you have those folks who buy several Porsches a year just because. Then you have the price insensitive whales who will buy whatever it is at a substantial markup because there's hype around it. If there are only going to be around 1000 of these cars a year, there'll still be many more buyers than there are cars to sell.
There are about 200 Porsche dealerships in the US. Even if the US gets around 1000 cars, that's still only 5 cars per year for each dealer. Substract maybe 200 for the 918 VIP's, and now you're at maybe 4 cars per dealer per year.
Porsche hasn't even really met demand for regular GT4's. It ain't gonna be any better for the GT4RS.
There are about 200 Porsche dealerships in the US. Even if the US gets around 1000 cars, that's still only 5 cars per year for each dealer. Substract maybe 200 for the 918 VIP's, and now you're at maybe 4 cars per dealer per year.
Porsche hasn't even really met demand for regular GT4's. It ain't gonna be any better for the GT4RS.
11-09-2021, 08:19 PM
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This is a much more accurate and safe solution. Needs to be more broadly available though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFyhYm64O-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFyhYm64O-4
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11-09-2021, 08:46 PM
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